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PostPosted: 19:45 - 13 Feb 2016    Post subject: House buying - a legal question please.. Reply with quote

If buying a house at what stage do you become legally bound to purchase the place? Namely, if I'm being faffed around at the final stages (different dates, keeps being delayed for one (usually shit) reason or other, legally, when am I committed to purchase? I think I read it's only when contracts are exchanged (they haven't been there yet) that I could be sued if I pull out. I accept if I was to pull out now I'd lose my solicitors fees and the rest of it, but I was prepared to accept that would I be in breach of a contract?

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PostPosted: 19:50 - 13 Feb 2016    Post subject: Re: House buying - a legal question please.. Reply with quote

If in England, its when contracts are exchanged.
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PostPosted: 21:15 - 13 Feb 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't try it in Scotland though Very Happy

Is it a house you really want? Give them a deadline for exchanging and tell them once it's past you're walking.
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PostPosted: 21:31 - 13 Feb 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sounds to me like it's already fallen-through. It's just that someone hasn't fessed up yet.
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PostPosted: 22:08 - 13 Feb 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

The above is about correct

Best discussing with your solicitor however.

It may be worth threatening to reduce the offer if there is no progress by a set date, this might result in them kicking off and collapsing the sale for you.

As already stated, depends how much you want the house.
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PostPosted: 13:07 - 14 Feb 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

The 10% deposit is paid at exchange.
Once paid you won't get that back.
So if you're prepared to lose that, then (as I understand it) your not fully committed until completion.
Obviously most sensible people aren't prepared to lose that much money, so people very rarely drop out after exchanging.
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PostPosted: 13:20 - 14 Feb 2016    Post subject: Re: House buying - a legal question please.. Reply with quote

1198 wrote:
I'm being faffed around at the final stages (different dates, keeps being delayed for one (usually shit) reason or other

The reason is the estate agent. Sick

1198 wrote:
I accept if I was to pull out now I'd lose my solicitors fees and the rest of it, but I was prepared to accept that would I be in breach of a contract?

Fees are gone and there's no contract yet to be in breach of. Wink
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PostPosted: 13:29 - 14 Feb 2016    Post subject: Re: House buying - a legal question please.. Reply with quote

Ste wrote:
1198 wrote:
I'm being faffed around at the final stages (different dates, keeps being delayed for one (usually shit) reason or other

The reason is the estate agent. Sick


In my situation it was the sellers' solicitor who'd told them it'd be completed by a set date when we'd not completed searches and not received information back from their solicitor about planning permission beyond "you can find this information out here:…"

To which my solicitor responded "why have you not done so then?"

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PostPosted: 13:55 - 14 Feb 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Your solicitors were provided by / recommended by the estate agent?
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PostPosted: 14:31 - 14 Feb 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

This doesn't sound encouraging.

The following events really happened.......

Seller mucked about, delaying etc. Buyer really wanted house so pushed things as far as exchange. Buyer put down the required 10% deposit. Seller continued to piss about and would not set a completion date. Buyer had to go through onerous additional legal process of "serving notice to complete" to force purchase through.

The notice serving added extra costs, stress and, needless to say, time, to the whole process. Which took the shine right off the "new" house.

My instinct would be to try once to force the seller's hand and don't exchange until your sure the dilly-dallying tactics are over.

If you can't pin him down, walk away. There are other properties available.
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PostPosted: 14:45 - 14 Feb 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sounds a bit dubious to me. The Local Search should have revealed all 'conditional planning consents' and quoted planning application Nos. It is easy to go to the respective Local Authority website, enter those numbers and get copies of the relevant decision notices. Two minutes of a job. I bet the seller's solicitor isn't sure about the planning permission situation and wants to place the risk onto you, so your solicitor is naturally cautious.
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PostPosted: 15:48 - 14 Feb 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tracey Suntan-King wrote:
Buyer put down the required 10% deposit. Seller continued to piss about and would not set a completion date. Buyer had to go through onerous additional legal process of "serving notice to complete" to force purchase through.


I was under the impression (not certain though) that Completion legally had to be within 30 days of Exchange.
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PostPosted: 16:09 - 14 Feb 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pete. wrote:
Don't try it in Scotland though Very Happy


That's all very well In theory!
In practice, as a seller, actually. forcing someone to pay up as per the contract is another matter!
In my case, when I was selling my house in Scotland, my buyers had gone down to the wire with their buyer!
Their buyer promptly disappeared, never to be found again!
The reallity is, despite the differences in legislation, it's just as difficult to get an unwilling buyer to cough up in Scotland as it is in England!
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PostPosted: 18:10 - 14 Feb 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alpineandy wrote:
I was under the impression (not certain though) that Completion legally had to be within 30 days of Exchange.

Out current house was a new-build. Exchange was almost immediate (about a month after we offered) and a clear 6 months before eventual completion.
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PostPosted: 18:28 - 14 Feb 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

angryjonny wrote:
Alpineandy wrote:
I was under the impression (not certain though) that Completion legally had to be within 30 days of Exchange.

Out current house was a new-build. Exchange was almost immediate (about a month after we offered) and a clear 6 months before eventual completion.

Well you live and learn.... well I do occasionally Laughing
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PostPosted: 18:45 - 14 Feb 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

New builds are a bit of an exception because the builder likes to lock you in ASAP. We PXed our existing house so essentially our sale and purchase both exchanged on the same day. Not sure I'd like to have exchanged on my purchase while the sale was still hanging, but people do.

In return you know the builder isn't going to gazump you. It only gets hairy if (as with us) your mortgage offer expires while they're still building.

Back on topic: there's clearly more to this story than is written in this thread but in my experience when odd delays keep coming for different reasons it's usually someone somewhere buying themselves some time after a disaster. Loss of buyer, loss of vendor, collapse in the price of their oil shares, whatever. The chain is starting to collapse. In my parents' case it was their buyers' "cash buyer" frantically trying and eventually failing to get a mortgage.
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PostPosted: 19:25 - 14 Feb 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ste wrote:
Your solicitors were provided by / recommended by the estate agent?


Mine?

No, they handled probate for a relative and had undertaken other things for the family.

Very happy with them through the process - was the seller's solicitors making up timescales while not getting information back to us that was the issue
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PostPosted: 07:57 - 15 Feb 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

We took 6 months and 5 or 6 days to buy our flat from our landlords in a no-chain private transaction. Mainly down to their solicitors being absolutely useless prices.

Our mortgage offer expired and our lender didn't want to extend the offer but somehow the broker got them too in the 11th hour. This is why the 5 or 6 days is important to my fable.

House buying is the most fucked up thing? Yet the most expensive thing.
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