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If a little 4t engine like that has seized, it's usually something fairly catastrophic like the camchain jumping a tooth or it having been run for a period with very low oil/oil pressure and the crank letting go.
What happened? Did it just stop? Any funny noises? How was it being ridden at the time?
Whip the plug out. What does it look like? Post a picture.
Dropping the oil into a clean container is a good next step. Check there is enough and strain it through a fine gauze to see if there are any bits of engine in there. Leave it to stand and see if a haze of metal particles appear on the surface.
The only way to find out what's going on properly though is to start stripping it down. I usually start by removing the rocker cover. A cam self-destruct or dropped valve can be obvious from here. Then I whip the head off, even if just to see the carnage.
Be aware, this may be more of a post-mortem examination rather than a fix. It's possible that something easily fixable could cause a 4t seizure (stuck on starter motor springs to mind) but most causes are terminal. ____________________ “Rule one: Always stick around for one more drink. That's when things happen. That's when you find out everything you want to know.”
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I bet on "no oil" last checker ages ago
See the 20+ times a year ____________________ Dave
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Sadly low oil is often more than just a
"It be stuck,
wife,
get me mah hammah" jobbies...
The lack of oil would result in excessive ware to the bearings and most of the top end as well as getting the piston *stuck* in the bore.
Free off the piston and if you are very very lucky it may be fine but will almost undoubtedly have reduced the life of the engine.
Usually the same oil lubes the clutch/gearbox so there could be some issues down there to...
There should be an oil level sight glass or dip stick on the engine.
I would suggest dropping the oil anywho, put it through a strainer and see how much engine comes out.
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Damage to :-
Piston rings bore
Cam followers and cam bearings
Big end and main bearings
Gearbox primary drive and clutch are usually OK ____________________ Dave
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 9 years, 344 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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