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Yasine
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PostPosted: 11:06 - 22 Feb 2016    Post subject: Can I ride my bike while it is still cold/warming up? Reply with quote

I have recently bought my first big bike.

Its an 02' Honda CBR600F Sport.

When I start it in the morning its really loud, the revs stay at about 2.5 - 3k for a few mins.

I live in a residential area so it does cause a bit of noise pollution.

So instead of leaving the bike stationary with the engine running like some riders do for the engine to get a bit warm. Is it okay for me to start riding straight away slowly on the smaller roads while I make progress to the main road?

Or is this harmful for the engine?

It has a Pipe werx exhaust which sounds nice, but would there be anything I can do to make it a little quieter?

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PostPosted: 11:10 - 22 Feb 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

With a modern water-cooled engine the advice is :-
start engine and ride off

I the silencer has not got a baffle in it fit one !
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PostPosted: 11:10 - 22 Feb 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do you have the baffle in?

I have a CBR600 F3 and while the previous owner used to let it warm up for 5 mins while he had a smoke, I always ride off after about 30 seconds and by the end of the road, I no longer need the choke out. I read somewhere that it's better for the engine to be in use gently.
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PostPosted: 11:12 - 22 Feb 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

The high idle is because it has a wax idle unit, a kind of thermostat linked to the throttle that makes it idle higher until the engine is a bit warmer. A baffle in the exhaust would quieten it down.

I have same bike, I ride it whilst it is warming up every day, have done for 7 years.

It goes without saying you don't want to hammer it from cold, but bimbling along at low revs... meh.
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PostPosted: 11:19 - 22 Feb 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Its fuel injected, so I would assume just like a modern car you can ride off gently straight away.

How would I know if I have a baffle fitted? Just look inside the exhaust?

And if I don't have one fitted, is it something universally available for the can I have? or would I need to get in touch with the Pipe werx company?

Hypothetically speaking if I had the carb model would it have been any quieter then the one I currently have?
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PostPosted: 11:20 - 22 Feb 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm just going to regurgitate everything that's already been said:

It's fine, ride off straight away. Just use minimal throttle and don't accelerate hard. The oil is fully circulated after 10 seconds or so anyway.

Look up "pipewerx baffle" on various auctioning/pre-owned websites and i'm sure you'll find something to stick in the exhaust to make it quieter.

Or you could tell the neighbours to stop whining. That's what I did and I haven't been spoken to since.
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PostPosted: 11:21 - 22 Feb 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Silver_Fox wrote:
Do you have the baffle in?

I have a CBR600 F3 and while the previous owner used to let it warm up for 5 mins while he had a smoke, I always ride off after about 30 seconds and by the end of the road, I no longer need the choke out. I read somewhere that it's better for the engine to be in use gently.


Does this mean that you need to manually control the choke?
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PostPosted: 11:21 - 22 Feb 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do you have the stock exhaust?

I'd just start up, slip gloves on and ride off. Don't go all out until the bikes up to temp.
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PostPosted: 11:22 - 22 Feb 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

is the exhaust standard?

get a torch an look down the pipe - i recommended doing this with the engine off

try an take a photo of the end of the pipe/ inside if you can
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PostPosted: 11:24 - 22 Feb 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Paddy. wrote:
Do you have the stock exhaust?

I'd just start up, slip gloves on and ride off. Don't go all out until the bikes up to temp.


I don't have the stock exhaust as the bike was bought the way it is, I do like the sound it makes at the moment. And the pipe looks good on it compared to the big SS pipe that comes as standard.
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PostPosted: 11:25 - 22 Feb 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'll +1 this thread:

I start up with the choke on then put my gloves on.

Choke off and ride away, riding gently for the first couple of miles, which are 30 zones anyway and don't really care after that.

Coming home, I'm straight onto NSL roads, you can get to NSL without ragging it too. Just don't ride in 1st at 13k revs when you set off.
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PostPosted: 11:26 - 22 Feb 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

haroman666 wrote:
Or you could tell the neighbours to stop whining. That's what I did and I haven't been spoken to since.



I hope this wasn't SQL's downfall Shocked


Yasine wrote:
Does this mean that you need to manually control the choke?


Yes. Your bike (post 2000) will have an automatic choke I believe
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PostPosted: 11:26 - 22 Feb 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

haroman666 wrote:
I'm just going to regurgitate everything that's already been said:

It's fine, ride off straight away. Just use minimal throttle and don't accelerate hard. The oil is fully circulated after 10 seconds or so anyway.

Look up "pipewerx baffle" on various auctioning/pre-owned websites and i'm sure you'll find something to stick in the exhaust to make it quieter.

Or you could tell the neighbours to stop whining. That's what I did and I haven't been spoken to since.


Thanks Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 11:28 - 22 Feb 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

mudcow007 wrote:
is the exhaust standard?

get a torch an look down the pipe - i recommended doing this with the engine off

try an take a photo of the end of the pipe/ inside if you can


Will have a look later, and its a Pipe werx exhaust.
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PostPosted: 12:15 - 22 Feb 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

where does all these tales start?

Just start the bike and ride off.
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PostPosted: 13:33 - 22 Feb 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

el_oso wrote:
where does all these tales start?

Just start the bike and ride off.


2 strokes? probably a good idea to warm them up due to porting in the sleeve, but four strokes? can't see the point
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PostPosted: 13:44 - 22 Feb 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

el_oso wrote:
where does all these tales start?

Prop engined WWI era aircraft? Mike will remember, from when he was training Harriet Quimby.

Start, ride. No "gloves on" rituals, just kick push the button and go.
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PostPosted: 14:22 - 22 Feb 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

If I jump on and ride off while the wax idle circuit is active the bitch will throw you off at the first junction in my village as soon as you let out the clutch because it's still up at 2.5k rpm. It only takes a minute for it to settle down.

Plus on mine the VTEC valves don't work till the temp reaches 65 celcius so no 'braaa-a-a-p' to chuckle at if I'm not patient.
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PostPosted: 19:11 - 22 Feb 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have to let my bike run for a minute or so while I stick gloves and helmet on then choke half in and ride off. Can normally put the choke fully in by the end of the road unless its really cold.
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PostPosted: 20:23 - 22 Feb 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

Unless the bike runs dangerously badly when cold, just start it and ride off as soon as I can.

andys675 wrote:

2 strokes? probably a good idea to warm them up due to porting in the sleeve, but four strokes? can't see the point


Probably more important with 4 strokes traditionally. Lots more bearings to wear, reliance on a flow of oil (and pressure with plane bearings), etc.

All the best

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PostPosted: 20:29 - 22 Feb 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

DrSnoosnoo wrote:
I'll +1 this thread:

I start up with the choke on then put my gloves on.

Choke off and ride away, riding gently for the first couple of miles, which are 30 zones anyway and don't really care after that.


pretty much the same except, start up, gate open, gloves on, drop choke slightly, out of gate, put bike back on stand, close gate, steady away as all terraced streets with two schools (school run mum's are the most dangerous road users around here)

Coming home it's similar, start, gloves on, ride steady through car park, steady to end of road and out onto 40mph dual carriageway.

Steady away, don't rag the nuts off it and it'll be fine

Basically, the kind of riding you'd have done on test should be fine.
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PostPosted: 20:34 - 22 Feb 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm quite happy to pretend I'm a mechanic warming up a champion riders British MX open class racer, when starting the bike, and anyway I've watched HRC technicians warming the NSR500's of all my hero's, so it'd be rude not to emulate them! Laughing
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PostPosted: 22:31 - 22 Feb 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

My 125 (manual choke) used to bog down badly if it wasn't warmed up first, so I had to. Current bike auto choke, fuel injection, starts straight away and I'm off. Just take it easy to begin with.
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PostPosted: 00:03 - 23 Feb 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

I give my bandit the time it takes to get my gloves on, unless it's still not responding nicely to throttle by then. I don't cane it untill it's running well off choke. Xv535 was a cold blooded recalcitrant bitch and could take a few minutes of babying the throttle before she would run if the weather was too cold. Consensus on the owners forum was all of the xv line was like that.

On modern multigrade oil, the time it takes to get it circulating is probably enough, particularly when engines have thermostats that bypass the radiator during warmup. Air cooled and most oil cooled engines arent that lucky.
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PostPosted: 08:59 - 23 Feb 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you all for the replies. From my understanding, jump on the bike and start riding but just be gentle with the throttle until it gets warm.
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