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struan80
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PostPosted: 06:08 - 25 Feb 2016    Post subject: I worry myself on the road Reply with quote

So I have done some trackdays and even entered a race or two. The problem I've got is that I can't ride on the road slowly anymore, each corner I want to attack and get that adrenaline rush. I think have a death wish

It nearly ended badly on a wet road the other day, I was a passenger but the bike sorted itself from what I was ecxpecting a high side, not good with oncoming traffic.

So I'm think very seriously about giving up road riding and cocentrating just on the track otherwse it's only a matter of time before I have an incident. I'm addicted to speed rush and do love riding the country roads but can't help screwing the guts out of the bike.

I'll miss my road riding but it;s going to injure me at some point.

Not sure what to do. I love fucking motorbikes.
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PostPosted: 06:11 - 25 Feb 2016    Post subject: Re: I worry myself on the road Reply with quote

struan80 wrote:
Not sure what to do.


Move to London. No interesting roads to "attack" here.
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PostPosted: 06:32 - 25 Feb 2016    Post subject: Re: I worry myself on the road Reply with quote

Meef wrote:
struan80 wrote:
Not sure what to do.


Move to London. No interesting roads to "attack" here.


Would rather cut of my left testicle than move to London or any large city. I.m a county bumpkin not a city slicker Smile
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PostPosted: 06:56 - 25 Feb 2016    Post subject: Re: I worry myself on the road Reply with quote

struan80 wrote:


Not sure what to do.


Mature a bit...
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PostPosted: 07:16 - 25 Feb 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was like that. Kneedown every corner etc. In the end i didnt wanna keep breaking my bike on offs.

My new job needs me to keep my licence. And last week i bought an army green enfield. And i love it.

Try a new machine.something with character that you will respect.
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PostPosted: 07:48 - 25 Feb 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Had the same thing, racing and going mad on the road. It eventually caught up with me though. After 3 meetings in 2004, leading championship, spent loadsa money off season to get ready then binned it big time on the road. Result was 4 months off work, over a year out of racing and a lot of pain.
I changed my road bike (other written off) to a Harley (don't laugh) and then a BMW flat twin which slowed me down considerably but also changed my mindset.
If you like the rush go racing full time and see if you really are fast, it puts things into perspective. Get something on the road you can enjoy without thrashing it all the time unlike the R6/R1. If you do go racing you probably won't have the time or money to be going mad on the road anyway, but do something before it catches up with you.

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PostPosted: 07:59 - 25 Feb 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

You've got that boy of yours to take care of. Don't give him a YOU to take care of, he needs you to be there for him.
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PostPosted: 08:14 - 25 Feb 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sell all your bikes and buy a KTM Duke 390.
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PostPosted: 08:46 - 25 Feb 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

We have all (mostly) been there, you have several options:-

1) Realise your mortality (this usually comes after a bad accident, near misses just aren't lesson enough)

2) Loose your licence

3) Die

4) Sell your bike.

I have known a few people give up their road bikes and go racing instead, its very time consuming and not cheap even at a low level though.
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PostPosted: 08:53 - 25 Feb 2016    Post subject: Re: I worry myself on the road Reply with quote

We all do things that we know that we shouldn't because we enjoy it, but there aren't actually a bunch of Numskulls in our heads pulling levers and making us act up.

If you genuinely think that you're not culpable for your actions and/or are suicidal, get professional medical help. Expect to be met with considerable scepticism that you "can't" control yourself.

Absent that, another vote for changing bikes. Get shot of the faired IL4s, buy a track bike and a trailer, and get a smaller capacity naked single or twin for the road. The Duke 390 does look like a good candidate, or how about a supermoto? Something like a Husky 501?
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PostPosted: 09:00 - 25 Feb 2016    Post subject: The monkey that drives me Reply with quote

Hi matey , your not the only one to suffer this , Ive just read Guy Martins last book , he suffered the same , he sought professional help to cure the inner monkey ,it has calmed him down (or so he says)
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PostPosted: 09:08 - 25 Feb 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

I remember chatting to a few people when at a track event. Many of them don't ride bikes on the road any longer, only on tracks some said it was due to the roads being more dangerous, but a couple said it was due to them not being able to tolerate driving to the rules and limits.

Makes sense, if you can't limit yourself, don't put yourself in that situation.

In short, get a track bike, and drive a car on the roads... you may find it easier?

It depends on your personality I guess.
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PostPosted: 09:08 - 25 Feb 2016    Post subject: Re: I worry myself on the road Reply with quote

Meef wrote:

Move to London. No interesting roads to "attack" here.

Lots of interesting roads, you need to look harder Wink
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PostPosted: 09:35 - 25 Feb 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Buy IL4 400cc. Fit much smaller front sprocket so it takes off like shit from a shovel but drops the top speed. Thrash the tits off it on the road without ever reaching warp 9.9 but still getting that feeling of making the bike scream.

The above works for me anyway.
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PostPosted: 09:49 - 25 Feb 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

What's the actual problem? Is it outright speed, or flying around corners too fast? Fast enough to kill yourself is actually pretty slow. Hit a tree at 40mph and I don't expect you'll be around to tell the tale.

If you physically feel like you can't help but go around a corner as fast as the machine (any machine) will allow then you basically need to quit all forms of two wheeled transport.

I agree with the others though, some bikes don't gag to be revved in the same way that a sports bike does. I'd maybe consider a smaller capacity supermoto (DRZ400SM), or possibly a "classic" styled bike.
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PostPosted: 09:58 - 25 Feb 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

A different type of bike is definitely the answer.
I tried a Tiger a few months ago and it instantly put me in tourer mode.
Got back on mine and I wanted to overtake everything again.
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PostPosted: 10:08 - 25 Feb 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm quite similar in my riding approach. I have also nearly been killed in a crash that left me with permanent (though not extreme) disability, and it didn't change my desire to go fast. But it did make me rethink my approach to this thorny problem. I have learned to be more choosy about where and when I open the taps, and quite often I'll say to myself, "no, conditions aren't good (safe) enough, leave it for another day." I always feel disappointment on such occasions, but there WILL be other times when things are better.

The trick then is to get out on the bike as often as possible, so you find those good conditions (on the road, they'll never be perfect, or 'safe') more often. Use every trick and learn every sign that will tell you if things aren't right on each occasion - experience does count. Another but....if you keep trying to go faster each time on that perfect bit of road, you WILL eventually come a' cropper. You have to learn to always keep that little margin in hand where you're not absolutely as flat out as you feel you can go.

There is no easy answer to this if you're of this mindset. But I'm still riding over 20 years after my big stack (there have been lesser crashes since), and I put that down to changes in my approach since that big one. I'd love to be able to be out on track every day (wouldn't we all), but failing that, I have to find some kind of balance. It seems to be working so far.

Karma for your honesty, and willingness to talk about something many of us feel, but often don't talk about because of the taboos we place upon ourselves on this subject.
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PostPosted: 10:13 - 25 Feb 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Driving a car on the road like a dick can just be as deadly to you and others
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PostPosted: 10:13 - 25 Feb 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

chickenstrip wrote:
I'm quite similar in my riding approach. I have also nearly been killed in a crash that left me with permanent (though not extreme) disability, and it didn't change my desire to go fast. But it did make me rethink my approach to this thorny problem. I have learned to be more choosy about where and when I open the taps, and quite often I'll say to myself, "no, conditions aren't good (safe) enough, leave it for another day." I always feel disappointment on such occasions, but there WILL be other times when things are better.

The trick then is to get out on the bike as often as possible, so you find those good conditions (on the road, they'll never be perfect, or 'safe') more often. Use every trick and learn every sign that will tell you if things aren't right on each occasion - experience does count. Another but....if you keep trying to go faster each time on that perfect bit of road, you WILL eventually come a' cropper. You have to learn to always keep that little margin in hand where you're not absolutely as flat out as you feel you can go.

There is no easy answer to this if you're of this mindset. But I'm still riding over 20 years after my big stack (there have been lesser crashes since), and I put that down to changes in my approach since that big one. I'd love to be able to be out on track every day (wouldn't we all), but failing that, I have to find some kind of balance. It seems to be working so far.

Karma for your honesty, and willingness to talk about something many of us feel, but often don't talk about because of the taboos we place upon ourselves on this subject.



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PostPosted: 10:32 - 25 Feb 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do an advanced rider training course if you havnt already.
A new goal that will to achieve that will make you safer.
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PostPosted: 12:22 - 25 Feb 2016    Post subject: Re: I worry myself on the road Reply with quote

Pete. wrote:


Mature a bit...


GTFO
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PostPosted: 12:44 - 25 Feb 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

get a honda msx 125 fit some good tyres problem solved
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PostPosted: 12:57 - 25 Feb 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

ROSPA/IAM/Bikesafe ?
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PostPosted: 13:31 - 25 Feb 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

929 Fireblade wrote:
I worry about my license more than I do dying.


It's not so much dying that's the problem. It's when you survive with the potential for some nasty disabilities as the legacy that you need to worry about.
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