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mysterious_rider
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PostPosted: 11:53 - 28 Feb 2016    Post subject: pc 1 yr old. gaming issue. Reply with quote

hello.
A while back I bought a gaming pc, and recently when I start on a game itll last 10 mins ish, and itll just suddenly reset for no reason, and i mean full pc shutdown and reboot.

Nothing is getting hot, gpu chills at 50deg ish and same with cpu etc.

It started on one game, now its happening on all of them. (dragon age inquisition, tomb raider, etc).

If i knock the grfx down it seems to cure it (cant stand playing shite grfx for too long so cant be 100%).

I swapped out for my fathers gpu and it made no difference, so card is okay.

Spec is

windows 7
intel i7 core 4790k 4.00ghz
16gb corsair ram vengeance
gigabyte z97 hd3 r2.0 motherboard
nvidia geforce 970 gpu.
2tb barracuda hdds.
corsair 750watt psu


Also tried running lots of stress test programs. None failed except the gpu tester. All temps would be fine, and randomly it'd reset.
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PostPosted: 12:05 - 28 Feb 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have you tried a different Power Supply?

It could be starting to fail, then the GPU draws more power than it can supply
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PostPosted: 12:16 - 28 Feb 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Could be that the power supply is barely up to the job. What's it's rating (Wattage)?
Back in the olden days (1990s) when I maintained PCs the first thing I would try with an issue like this was to open up the case, clean all the dust out, re-seat all the boards and peripherals, very often this was all that was needed. You'd be amazed how much crap builds up.

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PostPosted: 13:48 - 28 Feb 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

i edited original post.

Its a 750watt corsair. Inside the case is pretty much mint. Barely any dust.

Already done the usual reseat on various and re heatsink (on gpu).

cheers.
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PostPosted: 14:04 - 28 Feb 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

mysterious_rider wrote:
i edited original post.

Its a 750watt corsair. Inside the case is pretty much mint. Barely any dust.

Already done the usual reseat on various and re heatsink (on gpu).

cheers.


Have you tried a different power supply?
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PostPosted: 14:06 - 28 Feb 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

do a cleaning install of the gfx drivers, the option to do this shows up when installing them.

only install physx, the drivers and HD audio drivers.
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PostPosted: 14:33 - 28 Feb 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Removed reinstalled a few times. Reformatted windows to double check windows files.

Still no luck.
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PostPosted: 14:39 - 28 Feb 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

As Mr. iPencil above suggested, try a diff PSU.

And run memtest for a couple for hours.
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PostPosted: 16:41 - 28 Feb 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Download HWMonitor, try to trigger the shutdown but keep an eye on voltages. Something could be overvolting/shorting.

For some bizarre reason on my old PC when I'd look at smoke in CSGO for whatever reason (and no matter what the settings were) the pc would cut power and restart immediately.

I did notice by staring directly at HWMonitor that my 12v PCI-E socket was overvolting to fuck immediately before the shutdown. Changing which PCI-E Socket the GPU sat in made no difference to this so I thought the GPU could be faulty (turns out it wasn't cause it's in my new build running perfectly).

My event logs would also give me a Kernel Power 41 error with no error logs for anything else before the shutdown event.

To this day I have no idea what was causing it though, because I tried replacing pretty much every component except the motherboard.

If it's not PSU, it could be GPU, if not that then it could be RAM, if not that then your motherboard itself could just be fucked.

If there are no software or driver logs in your event logs then I doubt it's a driver issue either. A good program to check drivers is Driver Booster 3. Make sure when you install it you don't install any other bullshit software they try to offer for free.
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PostPosted: 19:22 - 28 Feb 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

mysterious_rider wrote:
Removed reinstalled a few times. Reformatted windows to double check windows files.

Still no luck.


Have you tried a different Power Supply?
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PostPosted: 20:23 - 28 Feb 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have you tried a different power supply?
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PostPosted: 20:56 - 28 Feb 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

try a different power supply.

I have a very similar spec, and run a 600w corsair PSU with 4 hard drives.

The GTX970 is not power hungry.
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PostPosted: 21:31 - 28 Feb 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ill try them programs.


Are psus interchangeable? Plug and play?

I could try swapping if so; otherwise ill have to drop 200 on a 1000watt supply. Be gutted if not that.

Cheers ill reply when i get a chance
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PostPosted: 21:36 - 28 Feb 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

So long as the supply you test with has adequate power and enough connectors you will be fine, all the connectors are standardised.

its not all about the power, the quality of the supply is more important for getting clean stable voltage.
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PostPosted: 21:54 - 28 Feb 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

mysterious_rider wrote:

I could try swapping if so; otherwise ill have to drop 200 on a 1000watt supply. Be gutted if not that.


why?

Why would you need a mega expensive supply simply because you were unlucky and got a faulty one?
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PostPosted: 02:35 - 29 Feb 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a

i7 930
2 780GTX's
Soundcard
2 SSD
HDD

It is a far more power hungry system and runs fine off an 850w PSU.
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PostPosted: 11:35 - 29 Feb 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Use this as a basis for what PSU you will need.

https://outervision.com/power-supply-calculator
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PostPosted: 07:42 - 11 Mar 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

I thought id upgrade. Chose a rm1000w corsair. Its pretty quiet. Cured all my problems. The gpu stress test has even smoothed out. Tested games etc for a week or so with perfect results grfx maxxed out.


Cheers lads.
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PostPosted: 07:43 - 11 Mar 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

I thought id upgrade. Chose a rm1000w corsair. Its pretty quiet. Cured all my problems. The gpu stress test has even smoothed out. Tested games etc for a week or so with perfect results grfx maxxed out.


Cheers lads.
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PostPosted: 10:25 - 11 Mar 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Overkill for your system, but I'm glad it sorted the problem.
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PostPosted: 10:28 - 11 Mar 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was going to suggest changing your power supply.

Glad it did the trick Very Happy
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PostPosted: 10:57 - 11 Mar 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Overkill sure.but might aswell upgrade while replacing parts.
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PostPosted: 11:16 - 11 Mar 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Loui5D wrote:
Use this as a basis for what PSU you will need.

https://outervision.com/power-supply-calculator


Recommended PSU: 881W Razz .

I thought my old £10 special one was struggling because it was a crap make, turns out it struggled because it had a mere 850w output.

I replaced it with this bad boi. Future proofing, innit.
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PostPosted: 11:24 - 11 Mar 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

mysterious_rider wrote:
I thought id upgrade. Chose a rm1000w corsair. Its pretty quiet. Cured all my problems. The gpu stress test has even smoothed out. Tested games etc for a week or so with perfect results grfx maxxed out.


Cheers lads.


Can I just say this:

First reply
First diagnosis

CORRECT

BOOM, MOTHERFUCKING BOOM
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PostPosted: 11:55 - 11 Mar 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

lihp wrote:


Can I just say this:

First reply
First diagnosis

CORRECT

BOOM, MOTHERFUCKING BOOM


That was impressive.

Props to ya Smile
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