ybr 125 currently, Does it make sense to buy a scooter?

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Hi

I have a ybr 125 currently, Does it make sense to buy a 125 scooter as well? Because in town the manual gearbox does get a bit annoying.

[Beehive Bedlam]

No.

[KnuckleShot]

How is it annoying?
I have a YBR and using gears in towns is not an issue at all.

[Rogerborg]

If you can get one cheap and not get pumped on the insurance, then sure. Buy a scooter, ride them alternately, sell the one that you don't want.

Be aware that you may get pumped though. Don't assume that you can add it to the YBR policy, and even if you can you'll be smacked with admin fees. If you can't, you'll have to set up a fresh policy without any No Claims to use on it (each earned lump of NCD can be applied to one policy and one only).

A cheap scooter could run you expensive if you're in London. Since you haven't said otherwise, I'll assume that you are.
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[oscar777]

no
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[Evil Hans]

[arry]

[Rogerborg]

Ah, right.

[woo]

up gear the ybr then you wont have to change as much and get a healtech speedo healer to correct your speedo

i up geared my honda msx 125 from 15 teeth to 16 teeth front sprocket and i prefer this gearing as i can now cruise at 35 mpg below 4k rpm and cruise at 60mph at 6.5k rpm
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[stevo as b4]

Though I have eventually come round to the possible commuting usefulness of a sporty scooter up to 300cc, I think for purely city and town use that twist&go's over 125cc start to become less useful or worth bothering with, but that as you go lower in capacity they out perform and outweigh geared bikes.

At 50cc there's naff all point to a geared bike at all as a useful machine for commuting for example.

It might be worth trying/borrowing a scoot to have a go at your commute on just to compare and see what you prefer. Running costs though won't be any lower and insurance could easily be more especially in London. I'd be worried about theft as all the crims want small scooters for hold ups and snatch and go raids too.

Lastly I've found scooters particularly noisy tuned two strokes to be a tad unreliable and also found they make you ride like an absolute twat, in terms of flat out everywhere or wanting to ride them on paths and in pedestrian zones and be generally anti social and ped boi all the time.

If I had something like a Gilera 180cc with a noisy pipe, I'd probably lose my licence or get locked up in no time, unless the bike got nicked first that is.

[talkToTheHat]

Get confident with the gears on your ybr. Practice. Then do tests and get a big bike. I assume you are not old enough for a/a2? But you can do tests for similar money to buying a non-deathtrap scooter. Yes, gears on a tiddler are annoying because powerband is thin and doesnt have much power but you'll get the hang of it.
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[Andy_Pagin]

I'd go for one or the other, having two bikes with the same performance is a bit pointless.
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[woo]

up gearing the bike by increasing the front sprocket size or decreasing the rear sprocket size in theory will increase your top speed so long as your bike has the power to do so.

so for honda msx 125 my top speed has not increased with me up gearing it as it doesnt have the power to do it but it has reduced my rpms by 600 rpm so instead of cruising at max speed of 60mph at 7.1k rpm im now crusing at 60mph at 6.5k rpm

my standard was 15 teeth front rear 34 teeth now its 16 teeth front 34 rear teeth.

i prefer this set up and speedo healer has sorted the misread as my speedo was under reading by about 9%

any strong winds or steep up hills my speed drops to 50mph in top gear
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[Evil Hans]

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[barrkel]

If you don't like gears, sure, get a scooter.

Back when I had both a PS125 and YBR125, I'd ride the YBR to get more experience with gears, go out on test routes etc., learning for my DAS. For city use I found the PS was a bit better, while the YBR was slightly less agile but a lot better (less skittish) on 40+mph roads. Overall the YBR felt a lot more like a bicycle, and once I had been on bigger bikes a few times, it felt like it was powered by a hamster in a wheel.

In a city situation, especially in the early days of riding, I think a scooter makes better use of the (minimal) available power. It's certainly more reliable / predictable, if you're not always in the right gear. Not like it matters a huge deal on a 125, they don't accelerate very quickly in any gear.

If you're not riding in fairly dense traffic, stick with a geared bike.
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[zico]

This is easy.

Do you have a vagina?

Yes - buy scooter.

No - don't buy scooter.
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[talkToTheHat]

Are you too malcoordinated to do gears or just not that into riding bikes?

I'd say get a car but that just ups the amount of damage you can do.

I'd say get a pushbike but you're looking at gears to get anywhere.

Wait for self-driving vehicles? Walk? Get bus?

I used to hate riding in traffic. All that clutch control. I got good at it.
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[stevo as b4]

Another lovely non down putting reply there again! Just like last time you got all excited shouting VFR eh!

Your telling the bloke this time he's not even good enough to drive a car, is not worthy of his YBR and should stick to a bycicle?

What would be your response to people that say your a big girl for riding a bandit and making it out to be some big fast bike?

And have you got a mental illness that makes you an obnoxious twat towards other people, or is everyone else just a wanker except you?

[Rogerborg]

For the avoidance of any doubt: y'all be posting in a sperg thread.

I doubt that OP even has a YBR.
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[dfgdfhbfgnf]

I can drive an motorcycle with my license. The problem is I live in a small country in europe so, there are no highways, the maximum long stretch in the whole country is about 2 miles, the rest is urban driving. I had a fazer600 which was too powerfull for these roads and I sold it within a month. Thst's why I want a scooter. The insurance is around 75euros per year and 10 euros license only for small 125cc or under scooters and motorcycles, so it's not that expensive.

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[Rogerborg]

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Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
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[talkToTheHat]

If you want a comfortable ride on lousy roads, a scooter is unlikely to help. Tiny wheels and typically the engine mounted to the swingarm makes for severely compromised handling. I'd suggest trying a few.

Stevo, i do recall i was the one asking questions in the vfr thread as to why scooter, automaticness or wife acceptance factor. I was busy suggesting automatic hondas as they have full size wheels, real swingarms an halfway sensible handling.