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faffergotgunz
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PostPosted: 18:41 - 15 Mar 2016    Post subject: shit cafe racers Reply with quote

Anyone else into this stuff: https://d3qom94u9bnnf1.cloudfront.net/content/list/ExDxnzMtSm26MpPSeg6K_Yamaha+Virago+Eric+EatSleepRIDE.jpg ?

My facebook feed is full of people converting their old bikes to these at the minute.

Dont understand it so I am getting angry and frustrated about it. At least pick a fecking faster engine! Doesnt look like its going to have much 'racer' in it to me.
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PostPosted: 18:44 - 15 Mar 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is a style.
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PostPosted: 19:33 - 15 Mar 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Doesn't look like a cafe racer to me, the back end is all wrong.

Got to bear in mind that the original cafe racers were often the owner's daily transport so still had to be practical.
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PostPosted: 19:35 - 15 Mar 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's keeping more old bikes on the road and off the scrap heap. It's as others said about the look/style, and it's also keeping old non desirable bikes priced high, as well as alot of specialists and custom fabricators and engineering and trick parts suppliers for old bikes in business.

While the bikes are overpriced and overstyled to the point of not being capable or comfy to ride, it's getting more people messing with bikes in sheds and spending money on unloved old machinery.
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PostPosted: 01:14 - 16 Mar 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't bikes need mudguards anymore?
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PostPosted: 07:00 - 16 Mar 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is the sort of slander I would expect to see in the car world. When in fact, car guys tend to admire other people's builds regardless of whether it's their style or not.


I personally love the cafe racers, especially the ones made from CG125's etc.
It warms my heart a little bit when you see a teenager on L-plates, proper into their old-school and retro stuff. Wink


I dread to think what you would say about the builds I do. haha!
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PostPosted: 08:43 - 16 Mar 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wonko The Sane wrote:
Doesn't look like a cafe racer to me, the back end is all wrong.

That. At this point you might as well call anything with the mudguards removed a café-brat-flat-bob-track-scrambler-chop for all the useful information that it conveys.

binge wrote:
old-school

Like that. What does that mean? Which "school"? What period?
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PostPosted: 09:03 - 16 Mar 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

I suppose nowadays we should call them 'McDonalds Racers' or 'The back of Sainsburys Car Park' racers. At least that's all the witless teenage cagers around my way seem to do with their Noddy cars.
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PostPosted: 09:12 - 16 Mar 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

This was up for £3k. £3k Laughing

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Honda-Cg125-Cafe-Racer-Custom-/151985596929?hash=item23630c2a01:g:R9wAAOSwoydWs33n

https://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/NzIwWDk2MA==/z/R9wAAOSwoydWs33n/$_57.JPG
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PostPosted: 10:01 - 16 Mar 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:

binge wrote:
old-school

Like that. What does that mean? Which "school"? What period?



Does it matter?
Anything pre 1991 is pretty oldschool now. Isnt 25 years 'the period' in which something is considered classic?
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PostPosted: 10:55 - 16 Mar 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

I ar classic Laughing
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PostPosted: 10:59 - 16 Mar 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Honda-cg125/141926210441?_trksid=p2047675.c100011.m1850&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20140107083358%26meid%3D921e00340f4f4733af82b4800fe6a700%26pid%3D100011%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D10%26sd%3D151985596929


Is that petrol tank on backwards? Laughing
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PostPosted: 11:14 - 16 Mar 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

chris-red wrote:
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Honda-cg125/141926210441?_trksid=p2047675.c100011.m1850&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20140107083358%26meid%3D921e00340f4f4733af82b4800fe6a700%26pid%3D100011%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D10%26sd%3D151985596929


Is that petrol tank on backwards? Laughing


This one is lovely Shocked Sick

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Honda-CG125-Custom-chopper-cruiser-motorcycle/321829573527?_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20140122125356%26meid%3D4f289fdd0c3e48a0ab9b8b0155c2c89a%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D6%26mehot%3Dpp%26sd%3D141926210441
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PostPosted: 11:53 - 16 Mar 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Polarbear wrote:


... Monstrosity.
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PostPosted: 12:56 - 16 Mar 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm considering stockpiling airboxes and mudguards for when they all get bored with them.
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PostPosted: 16:03 - 16 Mar 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's definitely an unwelcome trend. A lot of classic bikes are being mutilated in this way. It's not so bad when all it involves is pod filters, clip-ons and removing the mudguards, but often the first thing to happen is that the frame is chopped, straight away taking the bike past the point of no return. This has meant that some old bikes that were hitherto cheap and easy to get hold of aren't anymore. Most of the amateur-built ones are dreadful, anyway.

As far as new bikes are concerned, though, I'm on the opposite side of the fence. Anything that gets more new bikes sold, and more people riding them, is a good thing. Just as long as they keep their hands off our cheap oldies Tut Tut.
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PostPosted: 17:02 - 16 Mar 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Im more interested in customising for practical purposes rather than just to achieve a certain look. I do think a lot of these custom cafe bikes do look good when done well and they look better than your popped out of the factory mould harley type cruisers. I really liked the look of that bike Lotus brought out but i thnk im the only person who did.

If I had a garage I would like to build something for my work. So supermoto for speed and flickability round the cities estates and roundabouts, A comfortable seat for all day riding, some storage but not of the size conventional boxes are, accesory gubbins for keeping phones and laptops charged maybe even a built in computer for my notes emails etc or somesuch, oh and a tea maker for the winter. You rarely see that kind of customising.
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PostPosted: 17:28 - 16 Mar 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

I must admit to having dabbled. No classics were harmed. A cheap Chinese 125, small lights all round, and flat bars - actually just a piece of aluminium tube stock.

Frame intact, airbox intact, perfectly ridable and all undo-able. The exhaust wrap is a bit American Throbber, but it's hiding the ropey welds from removing the cats in the exhausts.

https://i47.tinypic.com/28asu2d.jpg

Laughs were had, forks did not twist due to lack of bracing, nobody got hurt. Just good old skool fashioned summer larks. Jumpers for goalposts, lashings of ginger beer, would lark again.
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PostPosted: 17:44 - 16 Mar 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

binge wrote:
This is the sort of slander I would expect to see in the car world. When in fact, car guys tend to admire other people's builds regardless of whether it's their style or not.


I personally love the cafe racers, especially the ones made from CG125's etc.
It warms my heart a little bit when you see a teenager on L-plates, proper into their old-school and retro stuff. Wink


I dread to think what you would say about the builds I do. haha!


To be honest it's tongue in cheek. I wouldnt say no to a go on one really but it seems like a trendy conversion at the minute. A good point brought up about the bikes getting modded past the point of no return, it's nicer to see a few old bikes about imo.

...I'm off to see if the Z bars have been delivered yet for the Virago Wink
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PostPosted: 18:18 - 16 Mar 2016    Post subject: Re: shit cafe racers Reply with quote

faffergotgunz wrote:
At least pick a fecking faster engine!


That appears to be an 1100 Virago engine which with a little work becomes an incredibly torquey motor that is easy to ride fast.
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PostPosted: 19:55 - 16 Mar 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

The only thing apart from the price for old dull classics that I dislike really about these café racer builds, is when someone calls their bike a café racer when it does not have clip on bars mounted under the top yoke.

That's my definition and judgement of a café racer, and some stupid fools thing you can have flat bars or higher on a café racer. They even sometimes say they don't want clip ons as they don't want an uncomfortable bike to ride.

Well if that's the case they don't want a fucking café racer.
Maybe a flat tracker, custom naked or bobber, but no clip on's= no café racer in my book.
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PostPosted: 20:20 - 16 Mar 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

stevo as b4 wrote:
no clip on's= no café racer in my book.


Have you ever heard of Ace bars? I'm guessing not.
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PostPosted: 20:33 - 16 Mar 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah but I just don't like them, the same with those adjustable jota bars. It's either clip on's or not a real café racer in my book.

You wouldn't combine a single humped seat with MX bars or similar unless the builder was suffering severe mental illness?
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PostPosted: 20:56 - 16 Mar 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

stevo as b4 wrote:
Yeah but I just don't like them, the same with those adjustable jota bars. It's either clip on's or not a real café racer in my book.


Your book is wrong what with there being no standard for a café racer. Thumbs Up
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