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TCFA
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PostPosted: 20:20 - 20 Mar 2016    Post subject: Getting knocked sideways by the wind Reply with quote

So the thing I find most unpleasant / uncomfortable / unsettling on long jaunts on motorways especially is getting scuttled around by strong winds. Otherwise its just sore arse, achy wrists, usual stuff

I'm always thinking about another bike (currently on CBR600F) and wondered if any one thing is better than another. I mean, is it better to have a bigger more "planted" type bike (to use the vernacular in the reviews), e.g. adventure style, or realistically is the best way to reduce this sticking with a small lithe think and getting in a crouch?

I've tried a Z1000SX (loved it) but it still might not be comfy enough, so also thinking of a tracer (not tested yet but very keen). But I'm in two minds re replacing the CBR, it seems to do what I need, I travel alone, I can get enough on the back, it's fully paid for, I like putting miles on it etc etc -so if I'm not going to see any improvement ....
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PostPosted: 20:31 - 20 Mar 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

The problem could well be the squishy bit rather than the metal.

Are you hanging on too tight? Relax, don't fight (said the butt rapist). Loose grip.
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PostPosted: 22:10 - 20 Mar 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

i'm conscious that i'm a bit tense, which would explain some of the aches

but would that have anything to do with the wind knocking me about?
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PostPosted: 22:43 - 20 Mar 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

TCFA wrote:
i'm conscious that i'm a bit tense, which would explain some of the aches

but would that have anything to do with the wind knocking me about?


Yes, if you cling on too tight to the handle bars then when the wind hits you it makes you wiggle the handle bars.
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PostPosted: 22:45 - 20 Mar 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

TCFA wrote:
ibut would that have anything to do with the wind knocking me about?

if you're worried about it and are tensing up err yes, probably Very Happy

its not pleasant but its something that sometimes happens and you just have to get on with it.

when i was touring scotland and we were on our way to john o'groats we were on the edge of a 120mph storm that was throwing boats out of the water on the coast. we were on the edge of it and were experiencing 50mph gusts through twisty goat tracks (still surprisingly better than most road surfaces daaarrn safff) that were literally throwing you onto the other side of the road.

my 2 mates took the option to slow right down and fight through it steadily. i thought screw that and keeping my bike at roughly 45 degrees lean and tucked in as much as possible, i powered on through to get to the next town.

thankfully there were no cars about so we rode in the middle of the road so any gusts wouldn't take us off the road.

awful conditions, not the most fun, but nice to reflect back on it Smile
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PostPosted: 10:57 - 21 Mar 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Leftfield idea but you could try lowering the front end a touch. I have a CBR600F and putting mine back up to stock height (prev owner lowered it to quicken up the steering) makes the bike far less settled in windy conditions. It seemed far more planted lowered and I suffered less wind noise too. When I put it back I can get you the measurements
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PostPosted: 20:35 - 21 Mar 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

More grunt undoubtedly helps stability. I've seen me riding in a lower gear than I would normally in extremely windy conditions. A bit more gyroscopic effect from the crank and quicker engine response never goes wrong and that's on a FJR1300 which wouldn't be described as lacking in instant oomph.

If you're doing motorway stuff you'll be well aware of the turbulence from lorries, coaches etc.., again a lower gear and a squirt of power to get past.

That's about as much as I can offer I'm afraid Wink
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TCFA
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PostPosted: 23:41 - 21 Mar 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

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When I put it back I can get you the measurements


yeah defo that'd be good
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PostPosted: 11:52 - 26 Mar 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

A few years ago several of us decided to go to the froggy MotoGP at Le Mans,via the scenic route and no peage.

Part of the route meant crossing the Seine near Le Havre and the easiest way was over the very tall road bridge meant only for bikes and cars,for which bikes cross for free.

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But,on the day that we were due to use the bridge there was a very gusty cross wind,which blew us across all over the place.Even the cars were affected.At the next stop after the bridge,we all agreed that it was one of the most terrifying experiences that we had ever had Shocked Thumbs Down
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PostPosted: 13:14 - 26 Mar 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fizzer Thou wrote:
A few years ago several of us decided to go to the froggy MotoGP at Le Mans,via the scenic route and no peage.

Part of the route meant crossing the Seine near Le Havre and the easiest way was over the very tall road bridge meant only for bikes and cars,for which bikes cross for free.


But,on the day that we were due to use the bridge there was a very gusty cross wind,which blew us across all over the place.Even the cars were affected.At the next stop after the bridge,we all agreed that it was one of the most terrifying experiences that we had ever had Shocked Thumbs Down


I've been over big tall bridges in a box van in very strong winds and that's not fun. Crapping my pants the whole way to the end.
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PostPosted: 13:36 - 26 Mar 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

arry wrote:
The problem could well be the squishy bit rather than the metal.

Are you hanging on too tight? Relax, don't fight (said the butt rapist). Loose grip.


This guy's right. With the exception of the stuff where the wind is blowing over lorries, (in the examples above), relax and lean in a little. A heavier bike doesn't seem to make much difference to me but it does make a small difference.

Bizarrely, I feel safer on my bike than in a car being blown around by the wind. I think this is because on the bike, I've learned how to compensate and am in control but then again, I've been riding a long time. I'm guessing practice also makes me better at handling winds.
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TCFA
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PostPosted: 13:47 - 26 Mar 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cool. I do try to relax when i find myself tensing, and it's not as horrible as it used to be (i remember taking a veeeeeery long time back from Wales to avoid the windy rainy M4 once) so maybe that's it.

i'm doing another big trip on the CBR in May (10 days, Le Mans, Pyrenees, Alps) and I suspect as much as I'm fond of it I might look to replace it after that (or get something comfier and keep the CBR for round town / track days)

I just get very very exhausted after long days in the CBR

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PostPosted: 21:48 - 01 Apr 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

For me personally, adventure bikes feel best in the wind.or on long days.or motorways.or offroad:) ok, clearly im biased, but like someone already said-heavier bike might not make much difference, but it will make a small difference, and that matters on long rides.

I was caught in 50-60mph gusts in Patagonia on the Route 3 along the Atlantic for a week straight, and I was riding a 150cc then-felt like a leaf in the wind! Weirdest week ever. Saw some BMW GS1200 riders along the way, they seemed to fare much better, but even they just wanted to get the hell out of there asap:)
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