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 Posted: 13:12 - 20 Mar 2016 Post subject: CBR500R 12,000 mile review |
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CBR500R (MY2013)
12,000 MILE REVIEW
So, after two years and 12,000 miles of ownership, I recently sold this bike, so now seemed like a sensible time to do a real world review.
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OK, let’s get this out the way at the beginning: Despite the fairings and the two “R”s emblazoned on the side, this is no race rep, no fireblade wannabe. I don’t say that as a negative thing either, I mention it only because that seems to be the first accusation levelled at this bike “it’s trying to be a racebike but it’s too slow”. In my humble opinion those people are missing the point of this bike entirely; I don’t think anybody out there is seriously struggling to decide between buying one of these and a fireblade. However, lots of people may be considering this bike on its own merits, as a cheap, frugal commuter with the bodywork adding just enough style and attitude to make it fun for weekend rides too (as well as some weather protection).
If so, you probably won’t be disappointed.
The facts:
[*]Cost - £4,700 (RRP was just over £5k but I got a deal because the 14 model was about to be released)
[*]Power – 47bhp (A2 friendly)
[*]Weight – 195kg fully fuelled
[*]MPG - dash currently showing high 60s.
[*]Tank range – I don’t start looking for a fuel station until the trip ticks over 200 miles
[*]Service intervals – 8000 mile minor (do it yourself). 16,000 major incl valve clearances.
What is it actually like to live with?
My riding is a mix of A-roads and city traffic commuting, weekend country ride outs and week-long tours (recently to Wales and to the peak district). The bike lives outside. I cover it if I’m not going to use it for a few days but it’s a daily commuter all year round so has seen its share of bad weather.
After 2 years, there is honestly not a spot of rust anywhere on the bike. Partly this is thanks to liberal use of ACF50 but there is certainly no evidence of cheap build quality. In fact it feels very well put together compared to competitors from other big Japanese manufacturers which I test rode. Nothing has worked loose, dropped off etc.
OK, so in bike terms, it’s not that fast, but the acceleration will leave behind all but the most expensive cars, and it will cruise at 100mph with ease. Handling is predictable and dependable even on the OE tyres, although switching to Michelin pilot road 4s has given me more confidence in the wet. Front suspension is unadjustable on the MY13 and rear spring is preload adjustable only. ABS is a nice safety net, it stepped in a couple of times when I was a bit aggressive with the slightly wooden feeling rear brake, but never intruded at all on the front.
It is so cheap to run; the relatively low power and low weight means tyres, chain and sprockets, brakes all last forever and are cheap to replace. Fuel economy is brilliant, its easy to work on yourself (apart from Honda employing gorillas to tighten even the most minor bolts) and insurance was pretty cheap for me too. The tool kit that came with it is pretty good, it has sensible grab handles which double up as strapping points for luggage and the dash is clear and easy to read.
It’s not perfect, nothing is. I was left on the side of the road when I ran out of petrol because the fuel gauge still said half full. My Honda dealer recovered me, diagnosed and replaced the fuel sensor under warranty within 2 days no questions asked. This was later identified as a formal safety recall item by Honda.
There was another early recall for a loose cylinder head bolt but this will be fixed in all bikes on the road by now.
The OE rear hugger costs an extortionate £80 [but a cbr250 one is half the price and fits fine], the OE rear seat cowl is a poor fit and can scratch the paintwork, and a gear indicator would be nice for a bike aimed at inexperienced riders.
I guess a good measure of how much I like the bike and how well it suits my needs is the fact that I haven’t needed to spend loads on modifications; a scorpion can added some extra attitude and a rear hugger really should come as standard, but otherwise, it has always behaved exactly as it should.
Like anybody, I occasionally found myself lusting after new more shiny and more powerful bikes, but I don’t have space for 2 bikes and I honestly don't believe anything in my price range suited my needs better as an all rounder.
Final note; MY2016 onwards has a lot of sensible upgrades including adjustable levers, adjustable front forks, LED lights and bigger fuel tank.
TLDR
A good bike for what it is, but don't try to trick yourself (or others) into thinking it’s a sports bike. ____________________ Bikers make great organ donors - add your name to the register
Ducati Multistrada 950 | Triumph Tiger 800 XR | Honda CBR500R | Yamaha YBR 125 Custom
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Nice review mate.
Always thought they were a good choice if you want a cheap to run commuter that does have a bit of style about it. ____________________ Current Bike - 2000 ZX-7R |
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It does look good, but I still can't get over the fact, it's got ''only'' a twin cylinder engine in it.  ____________________ '87 Honda XBR 500, '96 Kawasaki ZX7R P1, '90 Honda CB-1, '88 Kawasaki GPz550, MZ 150 ETZ
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Tempted to have one as a commuter for that sort of coin. Can't help but think an SV650 would be cheaper and a bit more fun? ____________________ My Flickr |
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| stevo as b4 wrote: |
Or is that that twin cylinder engines are just eminently crap and should never be considered for anything from a ditch pump to a motorcycle? |
Oh yeah?
| elsewhere, stevo as b4 wrote: | When you see two up CB500's banked right over scraping the pegs on the twisties, and passing 04 Fireblades etc, you think what is all this extra power doing for people? |
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Stevo, you know me far too well. Every motorized vehicle I have ever had owned (even a 190e for 3 days), had a in-line four cylinder engine in it.
But, I still have a understanding for having a parallel twin cylinder engine. I mean, a 125-300cc is perfectly understandable, as it would be expensive and not really beneficial to produce four cylinders this small, but having a CBR with such engine just seems wrong, especially when we are talking about 500cc+ engine displacement. This being said about the no. 1 motorcycle in my garage, as a 2nd. motorcycle I'd even buy a CBR 125/250, just because of the low cost running.
| stevo as b4 wrote: | What makes a 750cc IL4 magical and perfect 'Im not sure of either? |
It's 748cc and I'm not sure I'm capable of giving you an answer that would please you.
People would talk about performance and figures, such as kW, Nm, the top speed etc. etc., but for me it's not important. The important thing is the way how you achieve those figures and in-line 4 cylinder (so far) feels like the best way of doing that. Fuel economy wise, power output and torque per cc, power delivery, versatility and yes, I do enjoy the mighty howl of my completely vibrationless engine.
Looking at the other post of yours, You can't compare a motorcycle made/designed in '84 (The GPz550 was 82/83, then the model I had from '84 up to '92, I think) with a 90's liquid cooled CB.
I had a '88 GPz550 and it was far from perfect, yet it had something I can't explain, oh yes, a in-line 4 cylinder (just joking), nice motorcycle though.
Ride whatever suits you.
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If I needed a workhorse, I'd got for a 90's 500cc twin, GPZ, maybe a CB, just because of the lower running costs (MPG, tyres, brakes, chain and sprockets).
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| stevo as b4 wrote: | There's pretty good and trick twins, and things like the Kawasaki ER6 motor are effectively a ZX12R engine over bored and sawn in half. The GPZ1000RX was also the basis for a great twin pot motor too. |
This, well, sorry, no! It's like saying a 1.6 Vauxhall Vectra B is effectively a BTCC car from the 90's.  ____________________ '87 Honda XBR 500, '96 Kawasaki ZX7R P1, '90 Honda CB-1, '88 Kawasaki GPz550, MZ 150 ETZ
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I have briefly ridden one of these, and a few things struck me:
1) By 'eck this is slow for 47BHP. Feels more like 30? And more revs doesn't help..
2) By 'eck this thing has twitchy handling, any input on the bars has it darting off its current path. You could get used to it though.
3) By 'eck the upshifts (or was it downshifts?) through this gearbox are horrible, so dry and scratchy feeling. Going the other way was wonderfully slick, very strange.
4) The grip! Ohmigod the sheer grip this thing offers on what look to be OE Bridgestones. Phwoaaaarrrrr!! It wants to be cornered faster and faster, I'd kill myself in no time if I owned one of these.
Basically seems okay, and comfy too. Just a shame the gearing is so long or the bike weighs too much or something, it really didn't seem at all nippy. And I spend most of my time on a 20HP CB250.. ____________________ 1994 CB250, 1984 CBX250RS-E, 1989 K100RS, 1995 TRX850, 2016 Z250SL |
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Seems plenty of 1k mile 2013 CBR500R for about £3750 - £4000
Seems quite an expensive way to avoid squaring tyres & chains.
That said, I did a similar thing and bought a heap to avoid dinging the better one.
But you're wanting 100% reliability with 70 miles a day.
My £1k SV has only had 3 faults in 11,000 miles. A blown reg/rec that was knackered when I bought it. The horn button stopped working (switch just needed a clean). And the wiring loom stripped itself on a sharp edge on the fairing.
Anyway, none of which resulted in my not getting to work or home. And it cost £1k and has done 50k miles.
But you're just as likely as to buy a heap of trouble I guess. The risk you take with old stuff that's had 10 owners
Seems plenty of CB500x for the same money. Most include luggage, which could be really useful?
I'd go for the 500x, purely on practicality.
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 9 years, 275 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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