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Nobby the Bastard
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PostPosted: 18:30 - 24 Mar 2016    Post subject: It's not just me.... Reply with quote

... that would rather take the points and fine than wasting a day and spending even more money doing a course that will either bore the shit out of me or make me almost incandescent in rage at the half truths used to justify why speeding/filtering/kneedown outside a school is so wrong.


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andyscooter
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PostPosted: 18:54 - 24 Mar 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Course and fine same price now

Since fine went up

Also edited as what a twat got caught on phone but never learnt
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Nobby the Bastard
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PostPosted: 19:52 - 24 Mar 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

God.i wrote:
I wouldn't get caught in the first place...


Yeah, you'd have to be able to afford a phone and a car before you can be caught using it whilst driving.
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PostPosted: 20:02 - 24 Mar 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

So you take the point and fine and get caught again the near future, you've now got 6 points that will make a difference to your insurance.

I'd rather spend 4 hours pretending to lap it up and keep a clean licence.
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PostPosted: 20:26 - 24 Mar 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

I took points over a course because fuck it, who's going to compensate for what I lose out on by spending a day stuck in a room?

I did have 0 points at the time and were my first 3 points I'd ever had so I wasn't really arsed.
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PostPosted: 21:19 - 24 Mar 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jayy wrote:
I took points over a course because fuck it, who's going to compensate for what I lose out on by spending a day stuck in a room?

I did have 0 points at the time and were my first 3 points I'd ever had so I wasn't really arsed.


Not going to get the fine money back either though
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PostPosted: 22:12 - 24 Mar 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you get caught you shouldnt be on a bike.

I got caught within 30 days of passing my car test, about 10 years ago, years before I got a bike. Quite good value Very Happy
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PostPosted: 22:31 - 24 Mar 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

I did the speed awareness course for 36 in a 30.
By the end of the day I fully wished I had taken the points and fine.
Wasting a day with a bunch of fucking mindless drones, never again.

I'm in the New Rider probationary period but even still I would take the points any day.
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PostPosted: 00:55 - 25 Mar 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Commuter_Tim wrote:
I did the speed awareness course for 36 in a 30.
By the end of the day I fully wished I had taken the points and fine.
Wasting a day with a bunch of fucking mindless drones, never again.

I'm in the New Rider probationary period but even still I would take the points any day.


Why don't you just go fast in desristricted zones and have fun instead of being a knobhead where you know they have cameras in built up areas with kids and schools? You were in there with the 'mindless drones' go figure.

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Jayy
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PostPosted: 01:29 - 25 Mar 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mine was fucking dumb why I got the points in the first place. There were these temporary road works lights on a busy road, traffic tailing back for a fair distance and the lights only seemed to let 3 cars through and go back to red for 5 minutes.

I filtered slow as fuck up the outside of the traffic, going over a zebra crossing at about 5mph, just as the lights turned green and zipped off.

Unknown to me, traffic copper was walking along the pavement back to his car and saw me filter on the zebra crossing, takes my plate and turns up at my house 30 mins later with smug twat face on. Then he tried to imply that I had seen him and rode off.

Well fuck you cunt, I didn't see you so don't try and make shit up.

I genuinely wasn't aware you couldn't do that, see people do it every single day myself, loads of vloggers do it on YouTube, etc. Apparently that's 3 points... meh.
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PostPosted: 01:40 - 25 Mar 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

3 hours smiling and nodding vs 3 years of higher premiums and fewer bites of the cherry before license revocation. I took the classroom time, and would again in a heartbeat. My pride is far less precious than my license.
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PostPosted: 03:14 - 25 Mar 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

God.i wrote:
I wouldn't get caught in the first place...


God.i wrote:
As above you'd be an idiot to take the points. Insurance starts getting expensive at 6 points and above I know because I had 9 at one point.

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PostPosted: 10:11 - 25 Mar 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was driving down the road the other day and see someone using his phone while driving.
I was so incensed I immediately phoned the police... Rolling Eyes Laughing Laughing Laughing

I always turn my phone off when I'm driving, then I won't be tempted.
Leave a message, "I'm driving please text and I'll reply when I stop"

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monkeybiker
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PostPosted: 10:24 - 25 Mar 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Commuter_Tim wrote:
I did the speed awareness course for 36 in a 30.
By the end of the day I fully wished I had taken the points and fine.
Wasting a day with a bunch of fucking mindless drones, never again.

I'm in the New Rider probationary period but even still I would take the points any day.


That's a bit foolish then. I wouldn't risk my licence to avoid a half day in a classroom. When your allowed 12 points it might be worth the risk but if only 6 no thanks.

I've done the course before and it's not that bad.
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PostPosted: 15:53 - 25 Mar 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Old Git Racing wrote:

Why don't you just go fast in desristricted zones and have fun instead of being a knobhead where you know they have cameras in built up areas with kids and schools? You were in there with the 'mindless drones' go figure.

OGR


Interesting assumption, I have little desire to "go fast" I use my judgement on roads, not some piece of metal assigned by fools who have likely never seen that road IRL.

The road in question is a single carriageway that was at one point a 50, and is still perfectly safe to do that speed.

You are correct in that there used to be a school there, it wasn't there long though.
Having said that, it was entirely my fault for not seeing the van (it's not a built up area, just a moneymaker for scum) and I haven't missed one since.

For the record there are a few roads on my commute I do less than the limit.
Maybe if more people didn't mindlessly obey signs there would be less incidents on the roads.



monkeybiker wrote:

That's a bit foolish then. I wouldn't risk my licence to avoid a half day in a classroom. When your allowed 12 points it might be worth the risk but if only 6 no thanks.


Yeah that was what made me decide to do the course anyway, having said that it is only a risk if caught twice.
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PostPosted: 21:22 - 25 Mar 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 21:46 - 25 Mar 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

They said on my speed awareness course people walk out & take the fine/points, and I can see why. 4 hours of BS surrounded by a bunch of mongs, but for me at least taking the points would have made a big difference to insurance premiums.
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PostPosted: 22:56 - 25 Mar 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why does everyone on here who has done one of the courses say that everyone around them is retarded or stupid?

I'm curious what the courses are like, sure I'll get one one day though unless they scrap it for realizing it doesn't work.
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PostPosted: 23:16 - 25 Mar 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

I did one a while ago.
I managed to arrange the course to fit in with my day off from work, so it was no great hardship. The time soon passed and I ended up quids in.
Anyone who prefers taking the points plus financial penalty is a fool.
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Nobby the Bastard
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PostPosted: 23:19 - 25 Mar 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Raffles wrote:
I did one a while ago.
I managed to arrange the course to fit in with my day off from work, so it was no great hardship. The time soon passed and I ended up quids in.
Anyone who prefers taking the points plus financial penalty is a fool.


To be honest, the financial penalty is less than the amount I lose by taking a day off work.
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PostPosted: 23:20 - 25 Mar 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Finternet wrote:
Why does everyone on here who has done one of the courses say that everyone around them is retarded or stupid?


Because I was stupid for attending one, now I know better.

Also the people around me were mostly nodding/agreeing with stupid shit, there was no room for discussion on technical matters of safety/road conditions.
It was all 'SPEED BAD, no more speedy! Tut Tut '
The people running it even said on starting before anyone spoke "Now in the past we would discuss the rights and wrong of speeding and where it may be safe, but we don't have enough time for it..." Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 23:23 - 25 Mar 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

God.i wrote:
As above you'd be an idiot to take the points. Insurance starts getting expensive at 6 points and above I know because I had 9 at one point.


For some, it is nowhere near as expensive as the loss of a days pay. Insurance gets cheap as you get old, and pay often goes up a bit too.

If it got me on the wrong day, my insurance would have to go up 1000% for 4 years to make it worthwhile to take the lesson. That's for the car. For the bike it's over 3000%.
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PostPosted: 23:44 - 25 Mar 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Finternet wrote:
Why does everyone on here who has done one of the courses say that everyone around them is retarded or stupid?

Because they're. People were looking at NSL signs and going yeah, speed limits 40. That was the only benefit of the course, a Highway Code recap for people who never really bothered to learn it in the first place.
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