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Vracktal
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PostPosted: 09:40 - 25 Mar 2016    Post subject: Harley-Davidson teasing the idea of making an adventure bike Reply with quote

Quiver, BMW, for Harley Davidson is scoping the GS market.

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Guess they were trying to invoke the B2 bomber, which as I recall also had STEALTH written on it in all caps.

Previewed at the Bankok motor show of all places. First initial impressions to me are: 1) looks heavy 2) single-disk two-piston floating caliper front brakes are likely woefully inadequate 3) no reluctor ring = no ABS = probably not ever intended for UK shores 4) No toys? Not even a rev counter.

It's only an independent concept that HD are featuring to gauge interest rather than a production model, but still I think it's HDs first indication of making something other than a cruiser since Buell the XR1200R.
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PostPosted: 10:03 - 25 Mar 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmm, I remember BMW's attempt at a cruiser.
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PostPosted: 10:03 - 25 Mar 2016    Post subject: Re: Harley-Davidson teasing the idea of making an adventure Reply with quote

Vracktal wrote:
4) No toys? Not even a rev counter.

It's all about the aftermarket sales.
Always has been.

Oh, pardon me, the "customisation". Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 10:28 - 26 Mar 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

it looks like the designer of the fairing was a black belt in Origami? Eh?
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PostPosted: 12:08 - 26 Mar 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think despite how good or bad the bike may be, it just won't sell and make them any money, as HD customers like a certain thing, and are not willing to embrace new markets or types of machine, especially if they are not using traditional Harley technology and designs.

They could have pulled apart a KTM990 and R1200GS and tried to make everything better or lighter or more powerful or capable. But that would require more investment then I think Harley have available for a risky venture, and their customers probably won't even spit on a Harley that does not look or sound typically like one.
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PostPosted: 12:20 - 26 Mar 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pass the eye bleach.
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PostPosted: 12:30 - 26 Mar 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stealth. Laughing

Admitting to someone that you've bought a Harley is tough enough without it looking like that.
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PostPosted: 12:43 - 26 Mar 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

If I were a boss man at HD I'd be looking into the options for building factory choppers and bobbers with a huge list of customised options and paint and colour options.

Maybe look at a factory collaboration with a major specials builder to offer an official or factory approved range of wacky custom bikes.

Then I'd look at building half assed flat trackers and cafe racers with leather grips and exhaust wrap, and lots of Matt colour schemes. I'd ship them to Europe and put a nice big mark up on them too.
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PostPosted: 03:15 - 27 Mar 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Harley Davidson cornered the market for Adventure bikes from the off.

They don't go. They don't handle. They don't stop.

What could be more adventurous than that?

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PostPosted: 10:24 - 27 Mar 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

thought Armstrong were Harley owned Confused


at least the farmers will be able to tow a plough with them
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PostPosted: 11:38 - 27 Mar 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks like a lardy boy sat on an 82 katana and then crashed in to the ewan and charley accessory store.

Does it come with leaky overpriced adventue pyjamas?
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PostPosted: 12:18 - 27 Mar 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chuffin Nora wrote:
Harley Davidson cornered the market for Adventure bikes from the off.

They don't go. They don't handle. They don't stop.

What could be more adventurous than that?

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No to cruisers, adventure bikes, and big off roader?

Sounds like a case of the only way is fireblade?
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PostPosted: 14:32 - 27 Mar 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

They are both segments of the market thaf appeal to older, more affluent riders and have similarly upright riding positions. Adventure bikes go for silly money and stupid amounts of money get spent on bolt-ons. The lumbering torquey twins are reasonably well suited for soft roading.

Anyone seen the harley XA? Boxer and shaft drive. The jeep made it obsolete before it could be fully developed. But the USA won the war single handedly so the technology they had was good enough. I think BMW found some some Vorsprung durch Technik.
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PostPosted: 17:28 - 27 Mar 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

stevo as b4 wrote:
I think despite how good or bad the bike may be, it just won't sell and make them any money, as HD customers like a certain thing, and are not willing to embrace new markets or types of machine, especially if they are not using traditional Harley technology and designs.

They could have pulled apart a KTM990 and R1200GS and tried to make everything better or lighter or more powerful or capable. But that would require more investment then I think Harley have available for a risky venture, and their customers probably won't even spit on a Harley that does not look or sound typically like one.
That's just how it is.


Totally agree. Look how Harleys most advanced (chuckles) bike pretty well bombed, the V Rod. The only bike with an engine that is even close to the 20th century and they probably haven't sold enough to get their money back yet.

The only Harley I'd own Embarassed

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PostPosted: 22:34 - 27 Mar 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aren't they just taking the idea of the off road bikes they already sell (Army) and making it more lookie, that's not even a word Smile
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PostPosted: 23:11 - 27 Mar 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Going wrote:
Aren't they just taking the idea of the off road bikes they already sell (Army) and making it more lookie, that's not even a word Smile


AFAIK they don't supply the army anymore. They have some diesel powered bike but it isn't Harley.
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