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chrisdubya
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PostPosted: 11:24 - 22 Mar 2016    Post subject: Motor Legal Cover Reply with quote

Hi all

Im currently looking at insurance quotes for a potential new bike, however one of my quotes has no option of motor legal cover as an additional extra.

Is there anywhere this can be bought at a reasonable price, for the bike only? My car policy already has this.

Thanks
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Rogerborg
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PostPosted: 11:38 - 22 Mar 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why would you want it?

The policies that I've read only cover the costs of your insurer's chosen outfit of paralegals, and if and only if they decide that you're likely to win the case.

If they don't want to touch it, you're out of luck and will have to find your own representation.

If they do want to touch it, then you could pick and choose from any outfit of real solicitors who will take it on under a conditional fee arrangement, at the cost of you losing a negotiable amount of your final payout. But then they'd have an interest in obtaining the highest payout for both of you, rather than just fobbing you off while gouging the other insurer for a hire bike at an extortionate rate.

You'd have to be looking at a big payout for a more or less fixed value that's not your fault before it starts to make any sense.
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chrisdubya
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PostPosted: 12:11 - 22 Mar 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

To be honest mate its something I've always opted to have as a just in case!

However, if Im reading your post right, I could pay for it and they could still choose to not represent me?? And if that is the case I would have to pay again, for my own representation?

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If they do want to touch it, then you could pick and choose from any outfit of real solicitors who will take it on under a conditional fee arrangement, at the cost of you losing a negotiable amount of your final payout. But then they'd have an interest in obtaining the highest payout for both of you, rather than just fobbing you off while gouging the other insurer for a hire bike at an extortionate rate.


Is this a scenario if I choose not to take legal cover with the policy?
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Ste
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PostPosted: 12:17 - 22 Mar 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you don't have legal cover then you could go to any outfit of real solicitors. If they won't take it on then there's fuck all chance of a paralegal claims management company being successful with the claim.
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PostPosted: 13:28 - 22 Mar 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Absolute waste of cash.
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Rogerborg
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PostPosted: 13:34 - 22 Mar 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not necessarily, not now that legal costs come out of settlements rather than being tacked on top.

But what I said and what Ste said: it's not a blank cheque to spend on fighting a losing case. It only kicks in if you're likely to win and if that's the case then you can find your own no-win-no-fee outfit easily enough.
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chrisdubya
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PostPosted: 14:30 - 22 Mar 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok thanks guys. This is all assuming that someone else is at fault and I could make a claim/get compensation?

However, what if I was at fault, someone wanted to sue me, and there was no money to be won by a solicitor by representing me? Would I have to fork out for representation then, in the assumption that its all out of my own pocket?
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PostPosted: 14:39 - 22 Mar 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nope, your insurance company pay for solicitors to defend a claim against you.

They're the ones who're liable if you're at fault.
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chrisdubya
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PostPosted: 15:19 - 22 Mar 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ah, makes sense!

Great - thank you!
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PostPosted: 20:33 - 24 Mar 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:
Why would you want it?

The policies that I've read only cover the costs of your insurer's chosen outfit of paralegals, and if and only if they decide that you're likely to win the case.

If they don't want to touch it, you're out of luck and will have to find your own representation.

If they do want to touch it, then you could pick and choose from any outfit of real solicitors who will take it on under a conditional fee arrangement, at the cost of you losing a negotiable amount of your final payout. But then they'd have an interest in obtaining the highest payout for both of you, rather than just fobbing you off while gouging the other insurer for a hire bike at an extortionate rate...


This^^,

chrisdubya wrote:
To be honest mate its something I've always opted to have as a just in case!


Me too.

Except that the one time I wanted to use it, this happened:

chrisdubya wrote:
...I could pay for it and they could still choose to not represent me?? And if that is the case I would have to pay again, for my own representation?


In a stone-bonker case of strict liability vs the third party.

I ended up presenting my own case and won. The only thing the legal insurance did was to delay the proceedings by 6 months before deciding that they weren't interested.

If you need a lawyer, hire one.

Don't pay for useless insurance on the off chance.
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PostPosted: 09:38 - 25 Mar 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

don`t pay for legal cover .. they are only interested if your not at fault..
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Ste
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PostPosted: 12:03 - 25 Mar 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Even if it's free, legal cover is still a waste of time.

Any real firm of solicitors would be interested in your claim if you're not at fault and that's a much better option than some paralegal claims management legal cover.
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arry
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PostPosted: 12:19 - 25 Mar 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ste wrote:
Even if it's free, legal cover is still a waste of time.



It's never free despite what they might say. FCA have a real hard on for add-ons at the moment and there's a big reform coming, because of these sorts of things
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PostPosted: 13:20 - 25 Mar 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Like the reform that "stopped" insurers selling on details to ambulance chasers?

How's that working out? Laughing
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chrisdubya
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PostPosted: 16:25 - 25 Mar 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cheers for all the help chaps, much appreciated! Thumbs Up
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arry
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PostPosted: 05:47 - 26 Mar 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:

How's that working out? Laughing


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bugeye_bob
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PostPosted: 06:59 - 26 Mar 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Most home insurance comes with it, so why buy it again ?
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