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sgtcalle
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PostPosted: 06:58 - 01 Apr 2016    Post subject: Another stolen post... Reply with quote

Copied from my fb post.

STOLEN! Sometime last night (31st-1st) from a secure residential carpark in south ferry quay (down near Brunswick dock). Cut through 2 chains to get it so looks like a professionals. After a drop a few weekends ago the fairings are cracked and cable tied together. Please keep an eye out. And for fucks sakes keep your bikes under lock and key.

https://I.imgur.com/Y0IHInQ.jpg
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PostPosted: 07:06 - 01 Apr 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

post it in

https://www.facebook.com/groups/Stolenmotorcyclesmerseyside

https://www.facebook.com/itsbeenstolen

and give me the link to your facebook post.
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PostPosted: 07:07 - 01 Apr 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

No registration and no unique identifying features?
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PostPosted: 07:11 - 01 Apr 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah I have since added the reg to my posts. Reg is W117COF. The most part obvious identifying features are the cracked fairing. Could also add sprint steering damper, fox shock, Giles rearsets to the list.

Cansa, thanks for the links. Will PM you the fb link
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PostPosted: 07:13 - 01 Apr 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Where are they cracked?
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PostPosted: 07:16 - 01 Apr 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nose cone is missing a piece on the RHS near the bar, cracks to the left hand side fairing. Tail fairing has a crack along its length.

Just to add insult to injury, ive just had a text saying my replacement fairings will arrive in the post today
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PostPosted: 07:33 - 01 Apr 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

What chains did they cut through ?
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PostPosted: 08:25 - 01 Apr 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Does it matter what chains?
If they were big solid things and the bike was chained to a proper solid fixed object, then all it means is that they came prepared and knew the owner would not be around/close to the bike.

OP just for the info, was it taken from a home or work address? And how far does it place you away from the bike?

Theives know when someone chains up a bike and then lives say up on a 10th floor apartment, that the owner is going tube able too fuck all about it, when they are messing with their bike.
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PostPosted: 08:29 - 01 Apr 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

It matters because people can avoid said chains.
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PostPosted: 08:45 - 01 Apr 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

There isn't any chains that would stop a theft, if they were not using a pair of general bolt croppers though.

There's too much almax= good and everything else is asking for it theory on BCF though.
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PostPosted: 08:49 - 01 Apr 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had an Oxford 10 mm one chaining it to my deauville, and a 14mm mammoth one attaching it to a gatepost. Both were cut. They left the deauville where it was. Obviously they targeted the bike.

I am on the 3rd floor, the bike was left in the communal garages on the ground floor. Strange thing is, you need a fob to get into the garage. The door isnt damaged so either they had a fob to get in or managed to get the door to open without one. I'm going to knock on all my neighbours doors today. Somebody knows something!
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PostPosted: 09:06 - 01 Apr 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

stevo as b4 wrote:
Does it matter what chains?

It would interest us. Both were under 16mm and therefore hand croppable.


stevo as b4 wrote:
was it taken from a home or work address? And how far does it place you away from the bike?

Does it matter?


stevo as b4 wrote:
Theives know when someone chains up a bike and then lives say up on a 10th floor apartment, that the owner is going tube able too fuck all about it, when they are messing with their bike.

On what basis are you making that assertion? It doesn't matter, but I'm interested. Wink
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PostPosted: 09:15 - 01 Apr 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

sgtcalle wrote:
I'm going to knock on all my neighbours doors today. Somebody knows something!


I'd love to be a fly on the wall for these interviews.
I'd also love it if you could set up some covert filming of said interviews.
How many fobs for each resident? I love a good mystery. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 09:27 - 01 Apr 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

What do I do If I see it? ride tell the police I think there is a stolen bike next to me or screwdriver in ignition and ride home then post with picture and you come and collect?
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PostPosted: 10:36 - 01 Apr 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Could some one tailgate a legit fob user? Shutter for my work carpark doesn't close quick enough so someone could easily follow someone in. Having nothing to chain the bike to at work concerns me a little.
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PostPosted: 10:53 - 01 Apr 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

sgtcalle wrote:

I am on the 3rd floor, the bike was left in the communal garages on the ground floor. Strange thing is, you need a fob to get into the garage. The door isnt damaged so either they had a fob to get in or managed to get the door to open without one. I'm going to knock on all my neighbours doors today. Somebody knows something!



I also keep my bike in a gated underground car park underneath our apartment block which appears to look like it needs a fob or key code to enter. These car park gates can be opened with a flat head in very little time, so it doesn't necessarily mean one of your neighbours is involved in the theft.

It took about 30 seconds while armed with a flat head screwdriver and speaking to the maintenance people on the phone when the gates decided to stop responding to the fob's or key code for me and another unfortunate stuck in the car park.

All the best with the hunt for the bike, keep an eye on eBay & Gumtree for parts which may be off your bike and for the bike itself.
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PostPosted: 11:02 - 01 Apr 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

sgtcalle wrote:

I am on the 3rd floor, the bike was left in the communal garages on the ground floor. Strange thing is, you need a fob to get into the garage. The door isnt damaged so either they had a fob to get in or managed to get the door to open without one. I'm going to knock on all my neighbours doors today. Somebody knows something!


Shocked Shocked Shocked

Wow, what are you neighbours like? Obviously one is a diry theif, but do you know them well? Have any moved in recently you don't trust? Have you lived there long?

Sorry to hear this news btw, it's an awful feeling.
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PostPosted: 11:30 - 01 Apr 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Been quiet a few burglaries up by me (Childwall) the past few weeks

On Friday someone broke the door on my shed to look what was inside, probably seen I have a bandit, felt sorry for me an left it.

Same night 4 houses down they robbed a freelander Shocked

it must be the season for it....
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PostPosted: 11:40 - 01 Apr 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is there any CCTV?

It seems poor if a gated entrance with fob key entry can be bypassed so easily. There's no way for them to climb/cut a fence and get in etc then wait for someone to arrive so they can get the bike out?

Roger, if the bike was deliberately targeted then OP could have been watched for a week or a day or whatever, coming and going. In an apartment block type complex with such a carpark, would you not want to know what floor the guy with the bike lives at before stealing?

If it's parked outside an owners ground floor bedroom window, it makes life hard I would say. But then if OP is on the say 6th floor and has to take a lift, maybe go through a couple of secure fob doors or similar, then he wont be down anytime soon if your stood by the bike with the tools out etc.

That's what I was trying to find out, though I do agree with you that a cheap very easily cropped chain is not as good protection as a 16mm or more. I'm guessing as OP had more than one chain, it was not a 16mm+, as if you want to use the same chain for home and out and about 16mm is too big and heavy to be bothered with.

Still two chains are better than one, unless your an all you need is one big Almax and a smug face kind of person. There's always the day that the person with a single monster chain cant get it to lock or loses the key etc. More locks and chains the better IMO regardless of type and strength.
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PostPosted: 12:02 - 01 Apr 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bishbash II wrote:
Wow, what are you neighbours like? Obviously one is a diry theif, but do you know them well? Have any moved in recently you don't trust? Have you lived there long?


stevo as b4 wrote:
Is there any CCTV?


I see I'm not the only one.
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PostPosted: 12:04 - 01 Apr 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

From my point of view the Almax thing isn't about the chain being super tough, it's the fact that you won't get standard croppers around it.

I live in a flat on a reasonably quiet road but I doubt anybody would notice somebody cropping a chain in my car park. However, if you started angle grinding a chain, it'd make enough noise that somebody would hear.

I'm not naive enough to think they'd look to see what's going on, I'm basically living in London after-all. But when I come home to find my pride and joy gone, one of the first things I'd be asking my neighbours is whether they heard any loud machinery going off that day and if so what sort of time. There are 50 other flats within 200 meters of me, somebody would have heard something!

Narrowing the time frame down to half an hour or so would give me somewhere to start on local shops' CCTV if nothing else.
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PostPosted: 13:10 - 01 Apr 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

stevo as b4 wrote:
if you want to use the same chain for home and out and about 16mm is too big and heavy to be bothered with.


I have to disagree with this. When I had a top box, carrying my 19mm chain was easy. Now with a tail pack, carrying my 19mm is still easy. Certainly no more effort than any other chain that I have owned. The only disadvantage is that the tail pack stops the carrying of pillions, but I rarely do that anyway.
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PostPosted: 13:16 - 01 Apr 2016    Post subject: Re: Another stolen post... Reply with quote

sgtcalle wrote:
south ferry quay


Have a word with the guys in Liverpool Boat Sales and at the yacht club.
They should have some decent CCTV footage of the road.

Assuming you live that far down the road and the thieves had to go past those locations of course.
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PostPosted: 13:23 - 01 Apr 2016    Post subject: Re: Another stolen post... Reply with quote

sgtcalle wrote:
Cut through 2 chains to get it so looks like a professionals.


This is a false assumption.

I've had a bike secured to a ground anchor with 16x48 through hardened grade 80 load chain (this really is uncroppable, it's stronger than the pivot pins in the croppers) and fitted with a 12 lead immobaliser stolen before.

They cropped the chain with some sort of shear device (presumably hydraulic because I'd have heard power tools), took it away in a van, bypassed the immobaliser by effectively building a sub-loom running to either side of it then proceeded to joyride it round town for 3 days.

So I'd go looking for it in all the usual places. If nothing else, a lot of theives will park up a stolen bike somewhere for a few days to make sure it doesn't have a tracker fitted.
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PostPosted: 13:51 - 01 Apr 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jesus Christ Stinkwheel....I gotta hand it to the theives that took your bike....they really wanted a ride on it huh. What was it?
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