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Scotsman37
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PostPosted: 23:32 - 16 Feb 2005    Post subject: Speed Gun news article ! Reply with quote
The ProLaser III speed gun

A motorist has been cleared of a driving charge after contesting evidence from a speed gun

https://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/4270151.stm
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PostPosted: 23:58 - 16 Feb 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote
Cleared but not cleared by virtue of that oddity of Scottish law, the 'bastard' verdict of 'not-proven'. In other words, we think you did it but can't prove you did, so we'll let you go on the basis that it is better to free a guilty man than imprison an innocent one.

I don't think you can use a not-proven verdict as a prescedent (I could be wrong though).
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PostPosted: 00:01 - 17 Feb 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Inspector John Smith, of Northern Constabulary, said the force would not stop using the devices.
"There is nothing to suggest that the equipment does not work," he said.


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"As a matter of practice, Pro-Laser III equipment - which has been approved for use by the secretary of state - is checked for accuracy in accordance with its operating instructions and standard police procedure on every occasion before it is used."


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The website for the US-based manufacturer of the ProLaser says the gun has a range of 1,000ft - half the distance involved in the case.


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If you get caught speeding its your own fault, but when you get caught for speeding and its totaly inaccurate, then lied about, then ignored...

Way to boost the publics confidence.
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PostPosted: 01:08 - 17 Feb 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote
I have a recent experience of this type of gun under-reading but I think I'll settle for the 3 points rather than argue.
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PostPosted: 11:59 - 17 Feb 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote
Caught at 2000 ft away.
Gun accurate of a range of up to 1000 ft.


Err. Sounds like a fuckwitted police officer being quick on the draw, so to speak and desperate to get another fine in the bank.

Serves the tosser right for being too keen.
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PostPosted: 14:43 - 17 Feb 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Err. Sounds like a fuckwitted police officer being quick on the draw


Either that or the driver was very 'pally' with the guy who rolling road'd his car and stuck the limiter back on if it was de-restricted in the first place! Laughing

Same with that guy in the USA. Clocked at 205mph (apparently) but later a rolling road session proved his SP pegged out at 165mph Confused
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PostPosted: 14:52 - 17 Feb 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote
cc123 wrote:
...or the driver was very 'pally' with the guy who rolling road'd his car and stuck the limiter back on if it was de-restricted in the first place!

From memory limiter would have restriced it to about 112mph, rolling road found only capable of about 107mph. Expert witness verified as not modified from import.

The guy's solicitor said it calls into question all cases where this type of detector used in the UK.

Possible user error by the cop Rolling Eyes
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His car had been about 2,000ft away...manufacturer of the ProLaser says the gun has a range of 1,000ft

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PostPosted: 22:58 - 17 Feb 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote
"There is nothing to suggest that the equipment does not work,"

Except for the proven fact that it doesnt?
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PostPosted: 06:45 - 18 Feb 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote
loply wrote:
"There is nothing to suggest that the equipment does not work,"

Except for the proven fact that it doesnt?


I think you will find the verdict was one of Not proven. Which means they were not satisfied with the case for the prosecution but not entirely convinced by the argument for the defence either. It tends to suggest that both parties are on ropy ground since if it was definativley proven that the speed gun was reading incorrectly, you would have expected a 'not guilty' verdict to have been reached.

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PostPosted: 09:06 - 18 Feb 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote
Hummm, so what I'm reading between the lines is:

"This piece of equipment brings in a lot of revenue. As most people take the fine and points no argument, we ill continue to use it regardless of whether the equipment actually makes our roads safer"

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