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Renton
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PostPosted: 11:20 - 14 Apr 2016    Post subject: Feasibility of Long Distance Commuting Reply with quote

Currently looking at the possibility of moving house which would make my daily commute a 150 mile round trip.

It's roughly 34k miles a year - is this too much to be putting on a bike more than a year or two?

What are the downsides to such a long journey?
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PostPosted: 11:58 - 14 Apr 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

You'll go mad in a week I think. Especially if it's a route that is subject to traffic and roadworks etc.
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PostPosted: 12:00 - 14 Apr 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

I did 90 miles a day on an NTV600. It was too much.

Might be better on something like a K1600 but I still wouldn't fancy it.
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PostPosted: 12:06 - 14 Apr 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

I did near enough that - 120 miles round trip, but only 3 times a week.

It is doable, mine was on pretty good A roads and dual carriageways most of the way so overtaking and filtering meant I could make good time.

08 ZX6R stood up to the abuse pretty well considering, plenty of ACF helps if you ride all year. You will get sick of squared off rear tyres unless you go for something a bit more touring focused with dual compound. If you can't do all of your own maintenance then think again because paying a garage to do regular oil changes, pads etc will make it an expensive option.

Downsides - can get uncomfortable depending on the bike, after a long hard day getting on the bike can be depressing. I got to a point where I wasn't enjoying riding much and didn't go out at weekends for fun any more. Can be boring unless you sort some music/radio to listen to. It works out more expensive than you think.
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PostPosted: 12:11 - 14 Apr 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cost is certainly a big issue here. You're talking new tyres and a service of some sort every 3 months. That's before even considering the time taken commuting. It's doable, but also sounds pretty miserable.
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PostPosted: 12:30 - 14 Apr 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

I did Northampton to Old Street, London round trip daily on the XJ900F. 60 miles of boredom, followed by 10 miles of people trying to kill you.

Still better than the Underground.
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PostPosted: 12:31 - 14 Apr 2016    Post subject: Re: Feasibility of Long Distance Commuting Reply with quote

Renton wrote:
What are the downsides to such a long journey?

You'll sacrifice your life on the altar of work.

This is not a rehearsal, there's no rewind button, and you will never get that time back.
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PostPosted: 12:42 - 14 Apr 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

What do you expect your average speed to be?
50mph (assuming minimal traffic and decent A roads) = 3 hours a day on the bike. You will also have to fill up every day.

You'll get used to it, but it won't be fun.
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PostPosted: 12:43 - 14 Apr 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would only consider it if it was nearly all motorway miles, and then I'd rather have a cheap car for the winter and rain days.

In fact I wouldn't. That must be at least 90 to 120 minutes each way on top of work. Fuck that.
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PostPosted: 12:57 - 14 Apr 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

If there is no traffic, then assume it will take you three hours a day and there is no benefit to using a bike so Id choose to use a diesel car for 600 miles (4 days) between refils and 10k+ service intervals.

If there is traffic (therefore a need for a bike) then it will take you 4+ hours a day and I'd be looking for a new job.

To take a job like that, based on a 40 hour week, I'd be wanting a 50% raise from whatever the salary in my current post was to cover the ~20 hours commuting a week, plus the cost of running the vehicle on top. The ONLY way to compare jobs is door to door imho.

I currently do 36 miles each way which takes 45-50 minutes, so approximately half what you're proposing, it's in fairly light traffic and tbh, in winter its still a lot
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PostPosted: 13:08 - 14 Apr 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Too far, but if you're reasonably young then try it.
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PostPosted: 13:21 - 14 Apr 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

I used to commute at least an hour either way from Reading to Farnborough and I think the pressure of this contributed to the breakdown of my relationship.

Admittedly there was a lot of other things going on at the time, but I think the commute didn't help. I then moved a couple of miles away from work and was continually late because I figured it was only a couple of miles... Now I have a pretty much dead on 30 minute commute and all is well. It's still a bit more than I'd like but it's not a stressful one by and large.

The hour commute was more bearable in the summer when I could take the bike, but I did it a couple of times in the winter and hated it. I didn't save a lot of time on the bike anyway.

I'm going to take the bike on my slightly shorter commute in the Summer, although I think that I'll probably make it longer by taking more interesting roads.
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PostPosted: 13:47 - 14 Apr 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Screw having a massive commute for work. About 20 miles each way is about the most I would want to be doing.

Why are you looking to move anyway?
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PostPosted: 13:59 - 14 Apr 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you like bikes and biking, that will soon disappear with a commute like that.

Everybody I know who has tried the long commute for whatever reason has ended up hating their commute.
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PostPosted: 14:00 - 14 Apr 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

For the record my biggest was 140 miles per day commute. If I had to do it again I would get a shaft drive no question. You'll also be needing weather protection and low-cost maintenance.
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PostPosted: 14:21 - 14 Apr 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

How tired are you when you finish work? I reckon your journey is doable on a Pan European or similar, but if I tried it I reckon I'd fall asleep and die.
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PostPosted: 14:58 - 14 Apr 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Forget it, it's not worth it. I do a 50 mile round trip 6 days a week and even that gets old pretty fast. I still love my bike though and wouldn't trade it for anything and boy does it make you a better rider, especially with traffic. If you're considering doing it you're gonna need a really in depth knowledge of how to keep your own bike in top condition, plenty of decent gear and top notch roadside assistance so they don't just drag your bike to the nearest garage which might be many miles from home.
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PostPosted: 14:59 - 14 Apr 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can't remember where because it was ages ago but there was some study on 'happiness' and one big factor was how close you live to work. Commuting is work too, but people forget that and decide to go and live at some faraway place because "it's nice".

Best job I've ever had was about 1 minute's commute from where I was living.
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PostPosted: 15:00 - 14 Apr 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Never mind the relative merits or costs of various bikes or even cars,
that is flat out too much time to waste commuting unless you have your dream job and hate your family. Realistically 3 hours a day, which means in the first year you will have spent 700 hours (4 solid weeks) just commuting.

I would humbly suggest deciding which is more important to you, the new house or the job and if there was no avoiding it for a short period I would seriously consider public transport options so at least the time can be spent reading/watching a movie/sleeping.
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PostPosted: 15:22 - 14 Apr 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmm. My original optimism is starting to fade Confused

I am currently doing the journey on a Friday evening 2 or 3 times a month, so I know the route well and am fully aware of the time it takes etc. But it's one thing to be doing it periodically than it is to be doing it 5 days a week.

I am on a GSXR K5 which is no issues at all. But I would have to get something more dedicated if I was to commit.

I guess I'm just weighing up my options at the moment.
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PostPosted: 15:38 - 14 Apr 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

It might work if you could somehow make it only 2 or 3 times a week by stopping over or something?
In a car it would be not *that* unusual for a well paid job, but still far enough.
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PostPosted: 15:57 - 14 Apr 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

sod that, wouldnt even contemplate it.
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PostPosted: 16:41 - 14 Apr 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Renton wrote:
Hmm. My original optimism is starting to fade Confused

I am currently doing the journey on a Friday evening 2 or 3 times a month, so I know the route well and am fully aware of the time it takes etc. But it's one thing to be doing it periodically than it is to be doing it 5 days a week.

I am on a GSXR K5 which is no issues at all. But I would have to get something more dedicated if I was to commit.

I guess I'm just weighing up my options at the moment.


You would be budgeting for a new bike every couple of years on top of running costs.
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PostPosted: 16:49 - 14 Apr 2016    Post subject: Re: Feasibility of Long Distance Commuting Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:
Renton wrote:
What are the downsides to such a long journey?

You'll sacrifice your life on the altar of work.

This is not a rehearsal, there's no rewind button, and you will never get that time back.


This is spot on, unless it's for mega bucks meaning you can retire VERY early then don't do it. Just move closer to your job.

*my work is a 5 min bike ride away and that sucks in winter!
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