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PostPosted: 20:15 - 24 Apr 2016    Post subject: how is mod 2 marked? Reply with quote

Hi guys im new here, had a 125 a few years ago but recently decided to do my full license as im 24. Done my cbt, theory and mod1. Got my mod 2 on thursday. How does the examiner make notes of any faults, also anything to look out for? Cheers. Joe
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PostPosted: 20:22 - 24 Apr 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do your shoulder checks, cancel your indicators, don't do anything risky and you'll be alright. Not sure what you mean by how is it marked, but you fail if you get 10 minors, or 3 in one category (doing the same mistake 3 times). You can also fail for a major fault (something really bad/dangerous).
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PostPosted: 20:26 - 24 Apr 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry i should have been more clear. Does the examiner try to remember any faults until the end or do you stop every so often? Obviously he needs to fill in a test sheet but cant whilst riding. Cheers
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PostPosted: 20:29 - 24 Apr 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry i should have been more clear. Does the examiner try to remember any faults until the end or do you stop every so often? Obviously he needs to fill in a test sheet but cant whilst riding. Cheers
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PostPosted: 22:29 - 24 Apr 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

I did not get a good look at the examiner's kit to say exactly how they record it on the go. But I can say that he does somehow keep track as he goes along and does not stop you from time to time specifically to take notes. What stopping and starting there was, besides the obvious traffic signals and suchlike, was to do things like pulling over to pull out from behind a vehicle or do a hill start. You may also have to pull over to start the independent riding section (though this may come to an end whilst still moving).
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PostPosted: 06:48 - 25 Apr 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

There's a chance your examiner may be in a car while you do mod 2. Mine was.
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PostPosted: 07:03 - 25 Apr 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

The examiners do this every day, several times a day, they know exactly what to look out for and remember everything. They get back to the debrief and re run the whole ride through their head again. They are very good at it.

What they look for should be covered by your instructor. The main 3 that get you failed are observations, indications and road positioning.
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PostPosted: 08:14 - 25 Apr 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Slow into roundabouts and junctions, quick out, then get up to speed - they want to see confidence.

If there's a part-time or motorbikes-allowed bus lane that you can use, treat it as any other lane and use it as appropriate.

On the independent riding section, it doesn't matter where you go. It's not a navigation test, it's a safe riding test. Just commit to whichever lane you end up in, and do what you're signalling that you're about to do: no last second lane changes to try and get back on course.

Easier said than done, but try to ignore the examiner, no matter how close he or she is riding.

It's not a hard test and the examiner wants you to pass.

Your instructor's covered all this, presumably?
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PostPosted: 08:18 - 25 Apr 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the reply, was just doing some research so i know exactly what to expect then was wondering how they keep track of faults, as 45 mins is a fairly long time. Its fair to say im a little nervous, was quite confident before my mod1 but managed to rack up 4 minors on it, 2 for not shoulder checking, even though on the 30 min ride to the test i had been riding perfectly, making all the necessary checks, 1 for going too slow on the avoidance swerve, and one for stalling, hadnt stalled the bike at all until my test. Think its knocked my confidence to be honest :/
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PostPosted: 09:15 - 25 Apr 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

joemc wrote:
Thanks for the reply, was just doing some research so i know exactly what to expect then was wondering how they keep track of faults, as 45 mins is a fairly long time. Its fair to say im a little nervous, was quite confident before my mod1 but managed to rack up 4 minors on it, 2 for not shoulder checking, even though on the 30 min ride to the test i had been riding perfectly, making all the necessary checks, 1 for going too slow on the avoidance swerve, and one for stalling, hadnt stalled the bike at all until my test. Think its knocked my confidence to be honest :/


It's meant to be 45 mins, mine was just over 20 so don't worry about that. If I'm honest, you shouldn't be forgetting your shoulder checks at Mod 1 stage. It should be almost like muscle memory by that point. I'd recommend a couple of lessons before your Mod 2 to get it all drilled in. Treat it like you're on a ride out or a lesson and treat the examiner like a sat nav talking in your ear. Be confident and you'll do great.
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PostPosted: 11:17 - 25 Apr 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah i have covered it with my instructor and have nailed it on the road, just didnt imply it in the training ground. I was more focused on making sure i completed my manouvers properly and forgot the basics. Didnt help the fact i thought id failed for the stall. Ive got 2 hours right before my test so hopefully should be confident and relaxed enough to pass fingers crossed
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PostPosted: 11:21 - 25 Apr 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:
Slow into roundabouts and junctions, quick out, then get up to speed - they want to see confidence.

A friend I did my tests with had the examiner comment on his speed into roundabouts (he just went straight into them). With me it was straightlining them, but we both passed. On the way back from the test I took the examiners advice, took a 'normal' line around a mini-roundabout, and there was so much crap on the road I nearly dropped the bike. Gone back to straightlining them now Very Happy.

Rogerborg wrote:
Easier said than done, but try to ignore the examiner, no matter how close he or she is riding.

Actually enjoyed having someone chase me, it was like going for a ride with a mate. You can actually use them as a gauge for road positioning, if they're further out from an obstacle, or in a different lane to you, you're probably doing something wrong.

joemc wrote:
Its fair to say im a little nervous, was quite confident before my mod1 but managed to rack up 4 minors on it, 2 for not shoulder checking, even though on the 30 min ride to the test i had been riding perfectly, making all the necessary checks, 1 for going too slow on the avoidance swerve, and one for stalling, hadnt stalled the bike at all until my test. Think its knocked my confidence to be honest :/

You've got through (IMO) the hard bit. Mod 2's just a short ride, you dont have to be perfect, just safe and competent.
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PostPosted: 12:25 - 25 Apr 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Your test is 38 minutes long, that includes the briefing, setting the radio up and eyesight check and show me tell me questions.

On road the average is around 25-30 minutes.
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PostPosted: 12:35 - 25 Apr 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mine was over before I knew it.
Went out, rode for 10 mins along a dual carriageway in traffic (I did some filtering on the outside), then into a residential area for a few mins then an independent ride back down the 40mph dual carriageway to the test centre.

All I did was ride safe and to the speed limits. If you've been riding a 125 for a while, you'll already be doing the shoulder checks and indicator cancelling like it was second nature. Road positioning is important when turning left or right, keep across enough so that nobody can come up the inside of you on a left and the out side of you on a right turn and dont cut corners or mini roundabouts.

Just relax, it's a piece of piss for regular riders.
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PostPosted: 13:37 - 25 Apr 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pjay wrote:
rode for 10 mins along a dual carriageway in traffic (I did some filtering on the outside

The outside of what?

And why filter? Being stuck in traffic is the best result.


Pjay wrote:
Just relax, it's a piece of piss for regular riders.

Yup.

Except... look out for unmarked junctions. Whistle
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PostPosted: 13:45 - 25 Apr 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:
The outside of what?

And why filter? Being stuck in traffic is the best result.


It was dual lane, but as it was an industrial area there were loads of HGV's in both lanes, so I went on the outside of them.

I filter a lot between lanes when riding alone, but know it's best to do it along the white lines between the oncoming traffic (not literally on them of course).

And yeah, he did mention when it was over that he liked that I did filter as most people dont and said I should have done it some more, but I did think 'fuck this, it's a doddle sat in traffic', so I did quite a bit of that to burn time.
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PostPosted: 14:53 - 25 Apr 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pjay wrote:
It was dual lane, but as it was an industrial area there were loads of HGV's in both lanes, so I went on the outside of them.


So the outside of the outside lane? Thinking
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PostPosted: 15:32 - 25 Apr 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Matt B wrote:
So the outside of the outside lane? Thinking


Yeah, onto the lane for oncoming traffic.
Obviously when it was clear and safe to do so.
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PostPosted: 17:38 - 25 Apr 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

As I'll be doing mod 2 shortly, I was just wondering (seeing as it's been mentioned here), if I decide not to filter when the opportunity arises and decide to wait in traffic, would that be marked against me for "failing to make progress"?
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PostPosted: 17:44 - 25 Apr 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dave70 wrote:
As I'll be doing mod 2 shortly, I was just wondering (seeing as it's been mentioned here), if I decide not to filter when the opportunity arises and decide to wait in traffic, would that be marked against me for "failing to make progress"?


Absolutely not! Just take your time.
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PostPosted: 18:33 - 25 Apr 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, maybe as a minor, but like with 70's BBC celebs, they don't count.
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PostPosted: 19:30 - 25 Apr 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:
Well, maybe as a minor, but like with 70's BBC celebs, they don't count.


Not even if I clunk click every trick?
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PostPosted: 13:58 - 26 Apr 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

I did my Mod2 yesterday and asked the examiner how they remember it all - he said when he gets back to the test centre it's like playing a video back in your head.

As for the time, I think in total it was about 50 mins including the sight test and show me tell me parts. The part on the road went extremely quickly, that said I was extremely relieved when we were heading into the test centre- for a horrible moment I thought we were going to keep going Rolling Eyes !
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PostPosted: 14:23 - 26 Apr 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

louisella wrote:
I did my Mod2 yesterday and asked the examiner how they remember it all - he said when he gets back to the test centre it's like playing a video back in your head.

As for the time, I think in total it was about 50 mins including the sight test and show me tell me parts. The part on the road went extremely quickly, that said I was extremely relieved when we were heading into the test centre- for a horrible moment I thought we were going to keep going Rolling Eyes !


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PostPosted: 14:33 - 26 Apr 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

I passed Laughing I did Mod1 first thing then had a very tense wait to do Mod2 5 hours later - I've never been so nervous in my life!
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