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It's exactly the same "offence" as riding a bicycle, or driving or even parking a car on a footway/pavement. The most you're likely to get is a £100 FPN. I don't believe it's endorsable as a specific offence. ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
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I got a £60 fine for this about 5 years ago.
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Sure, Glasgow pedal-coppers can be seen treating the whole city centre footways as "shared use".
| Undinist wrote: | Would riding on a traffic island be the same offence? |
No idea, chap. We're going back to the Highways Act 1835 (no, not a typo).
https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/Will4/5-6/50/section/72
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72 Penalty on persons committing nuisances by riding on footpaths, &c. If any person shall wilfully ride upon any footpath or causeway by the side of any road made or set apart for the use or accommodation of foot passengers; or shall wilfully lead or drive any horse, ass, sheep, mule, swine, or cattle or carriage of any description, or any truck or sledge, upon any such footpath or causeway; or shall tether any horse, ass, mule, swine, or cattle, on any highway, so as to suffer or permit the tethered animal to be thereon; every person so offending in any of the cases aforesaid shall for each and every such offence forfeit and pay any sum not exceeding level 2 on the standard scale[*], over and above the damages occasioned thereby. |
[*] Up to £500 coin of the realm.
I occasionally ride along this piece of, uh, raised carriageway, in order to make progress, having seen copper bikers perform u-turns across it. Surely they wouldn't do anything illegal.
https://i.imgur.com/B8wlK44.png ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
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Riding on the footway COULD be used as a basis for a S59. If they were feeling in a bad mood.
Get off the bike and push it across the footway next time. If you're pushing it, you're a pedestrian.
I used to quite regularly push my bike through a 10 yard stretch of one-way system. ____________________ “Rule one: Always stick around for one more drink. That's when things happen. That's when you find out everything you want to know.”
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| Petemate wrote: | I was once told by a policeman that it is legal to ride on a footpath providing 1) you ride at 90 degrees to the path and 2) you are proceeding from the road directly to an authorised parking area for motorcycles. This, I fear, would not be a defence for anyone caught riding ALONG a path........ |
I don't know what statute he's thinking of. It would seem to be covered by HA 1835 S72, to which there's no statutory defence since parking wasn't even contemplated then. You're committing an offence by driving across a dropped kerb onto your own driveway. You monster.
If he's thinking of RTA 1988 S34 "Prohibition of driving mechanically propelled vehicles elsewhere than on roads" then it's not clear if it applies to footpaths/footways/pavements that do form part of a road, only to "common land, moorland or land of any other description, not being land forming part of a road [or] on any road being a footpath, bridleway or restricted byway"
If he wants to argue that RTA applies, then there's still nothing explicit about going directly across it, only the separation of road and parking: "It is not an offence under this section to drive a mechanically propelled vehicle on any land within fifteen yards of a road, being a road on which a motor vehicle may lawfully be driven, for the purpose only of parking the vehicle on that land."
I don't think many pavements are 15 yards wide. And note that it's about the separation of road and off-road land, not strictly the distance that you have to drive or ride to get there.
However, that "only" does look ripe for being interpreted as "by the most direct route" or similar, and I expect there will be case law on this.
Anyone really interested could have a look for it on https://www.bailii.org/ ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
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How on earth did they figure that as a CU20? What were the circumstances? Do you recall what actual offence was on the FPN blackmail offer? ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 9 years, 264 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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