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PostPosted: 21:42 - 03 May 2016    Post subject: Another one giving us all a bad name... Reply with quote

https://www.greatyarmouthmercury.co.uk/news/motorbike_rider_caught_doing_a_wheelie_then_going_100mph_down_acle_straight_1_4520502

I commute 6 days a week down this road and I've seen first hand how dangerous it can be but people still decide to do stuff like this. And if the guy posting about the 600 SRAD sees this post, this is what happens when you get caught on the wrong license with a bike that's too powerful to be restricted. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 21:46 - 03 May 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

What a fucking lad. Top game.
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PostPosted: 21:48 - 03 May 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

I did a really bad fart in a lift once while in my gear, I reckon that gave us a bad name.
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PostPosted: 21:49 - 03 May 2016    Post subject: Re: Another one giving us all a bad name... Reply with quote

vespertinestar wrote:
Another one giving us all a bad name...

The police motorcyclist?
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PostPosted: 21:50 - 03 May 2016    Post subject: Re: Another one giving us all a bad name... Reply with quote

Ste wrote:
vespertinestar wrote:
Another one giving us all a bad name...

The police motorcyclist?


No, it was definitely me.
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PostPosted: 21:50 - 03 May 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 21:51 - 03 May 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 22:07 - 03 May 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

i did this the other day and i saw the blue lights come on in the opposite carriageway so i put my head down and pinned it.

i give you a bad name, maybe you should become a cager.
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PostPosted: 22:08 - 03 May 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is there a video? showing 2 pictures and a loading wheel for me Sad

What size gsxr is it?
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PostPosted: 22:09 - 03 May 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't have an issue with what he did, just where he chose to do it. Plenty more roads round there that are much less likely to end with dead rider and p****d off drivers.
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PostPosted: 22:09 - 03 May 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

How is a five mile straight with a slight kink in the middle any way dangerous?
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PostPosted: 22:14 - 03 May 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Groove wrote:
How is a five mile straight with a slight kink in the middle any way dangerous?


No idea, loads of accidents on there though, sometimes several per week, people ending up in the water filled ditches either side of it and such. Guess it's just because there's nowhere to go if something unexpected happens. Tend to see a lot of people having second thoughts about an overtake half way through.
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PostPosted: 22:18 - 03 May 2016    Post subject: Re: Another one giving us all a bad name... Reply with quote

vespertinestar wrote:
this is what happens when you get caught on the wrong license with a bike that's too powerful to be restricted. Thumbs Up

"The rider of the stopped motorcycle was dealt with by means of the traffic offence reporting scheme and a decision will be made about what offences they should be prosecuted for by the Traffic Justice Unit."

Bets on what he'll be done for and what he'll get?
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PostPosted: 22:19 - 03 May 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

However... "obtained fraudulently" because they were one a restricted licence and the bike was too powerful??!

You don't even have to have a licence to "obtain" a bike, or even ride one, it's only when you ride it on public roads that a licence is needed...
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PostPosted: 22:19 - 03 May 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Groove wrote:
How is a five mile straight with a slight kink in the middle any way dangerous?


Not very, I seem to recall a bloke on a ZZR1100 with a custom blue/black paint job pulling an indicated 140mph on that stretch of road, admittedly on two wheels, a couple of years ago. It may have killed a few bugs but no kittens Laughing
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PostPosted: 22:26 - 03 May 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ichy wrote:
I did a really bad fart in a lift once while in my gear, I reckon that gave us a bad name.


Wrong on so many levels...
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PostPosted: 22:33 - 03 May 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

defblade wrote:
However... "obtained fraudulently" because they were one a restricted licence and the bike was too powerful??!

You don't even have to have a licence to "obtain" a bike, or even ride one, it's only when you ride it on public roads that a licence is needed...



Because it was on about insurance I took it to mean the insurance was obtained fraudulently....


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PostPosted: 22:37 - 03 May 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

defblade wrote:
However... "obtained fraudulently" because they were one a restricted licence and the bike was too powerful??!

You don't even have to have a licence to "obtain" a bike, or even ride one, it's only when you ride it on public roads that a licence is needed...

"The rider had also failed to inform their insurance company of modifications made to the bike, and the fact it did not meet the criteria for their driving licence, and as such appeared to have been obtained fraudulently, according to a police spokesman."

It's his insurance that was obtained fraudulently.
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PostPosted: 22:44 - 03 May 2016    Post subject: Re: Another one giving us all a bad name... Reply with quote

Ste wrote:
vespertinestar wrote:
this is what happens when you get caught on the wrong license with a bike that's too powerful to be restricted. Thumbs Up

"The rider of the stopped motorcycle was dealt with by means of the traffic offence reporting scheme and a decision will be made about what offences they should be prosecuted for by the Traffic Justice Unit."

Bets on what he'll be done for and what he'll get?


Probably whatever plod can pin on him the easiest. Depends how lenient they're feeling at the time but looks like they've got a few things to choose from Laughing

I'm imagining a game show style "wheel of prosecution" that they'll just spin and he'll randomly get booked for the offence it lands on.


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PostPosted: 22:52 - 03 May 2016    Post subject: Re: Another one giving us all a bad name... Reply with quote

vespertinestar wrote:
this is what happens when you get caught on the wrong license with a bike that's too powerful to be restricted. Thumbs Up

Quite right, he shouldn't have been caught.

Really, after the first dozen points from licensing and insurance offences, the wheelie and speeding were just cake. Failure to stop[*] is only 3 points. Might as well have a laugh with it.

I make that:

IN10 Using a vehicle uninsured against third party risks = 6 to 8 points
LC20 Driving otherwise than in accordance with a licence = 3 to 6 points
SP30 Exceeding statutory speed limit on a public road = 3 to 6 points
MS60 or CU80 control of vehicle = 3 points (wheelie good fun)

Throw in a CD10/20/30 for careless/inconsiderate (even though the copper thought it was fine to pursue at a higher speed in the same traffic) for another 3 to 9.

[*] Funnily enough though, if that was a stealth or bait copper not actually in uniform, the one thing they can't do him for is failure to stop. Flashing lights and sirens don't count.
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PostPosted: 23:16 - 03 May 2016    Post subject: Re: Another one giving us all a bad name... Reply with quote

If you "drop a gear and disappear" you need to actually... y'know... disappear. This guys only failing in my book is that he got caught - a real biker would've got away. in a dream once I passed a police car (unmarked) doing at least 150, saw the lights come on as it entered view of my mirror, pinned the throttle right open and about three seconds later the lights went out.

Rogerborg wrote:
IN10 Using a vehicle uninsured against third party risks = 6 to 8 points


I'd fight that. Policy is set up and will payout regardless. The RTA is actually designed so that if your insurance is invalid or fraudulently obtained, it still pays out anyway. Nobody loses. Not sure how well that'd do infront of Your Honour mind you.
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PostPosted: 23:32 - 03 May 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

On that road? He'd have little chance of getting away cleanly against what I'm assuming was a more experienced and better trained police rider. Were he being followed by a car I doubt this would have been a story at all. Poor decision on his part to end up on a single lane road with only one other exit that isn't the other end of the road but you can add that to the list of the other bad decisions he made.

Anyone know what the law states about video evidence against the riders they never caught?
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PostPosted: 23:55 - 03 May 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

vespertinestar wrote:
On that road? He'd have little chance of getting away cleanly against what I'm assuming was a more experienced and better trained police rider. Were he being followed by a car I doubt this would have been a story at all. Poor decision on his part to end up on a single lane road with only one other exit that isn't the other end of the road but you can add that to the list of the other bad decisions he made.

Anyone know what the law states about video evidence against the riders they never caught?


if he can wheelie at over 100mph id bet his bike is faster than the police bike... 5 mile stretch of road is enough to make up some good ground, plus being a sports itll handle better than the police bmw.

gsxr 600 srad is 109bhp ~ top speed about 150
the bmw r1200rt (if they still use them) 110bhp struggles past 120.

gsxr 600 will get to 150 before the bmw knows whats going on, gsxr being over 1 second faster to 60.

im just saying all he had to do was open the throttle and leave the police behind.

thats based on a standard gsxr with no mods at all.
exhaust was changed and id hazard a guess it had been jetted to suit for more bhp.
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PostPosted: 07:13 - 04 May 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Paul Vtr wrote:

if he can wheelie at over 100mph id bet his bike is faster than the police bike...


You've fallen for the sensationalist jounalists' trick of combining two things so that they happen simultaneously for maximum effect.

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A motorbike rider was caught by a traffic officer doing a wheelie and driving at 100mph down the Acle Straight.

Motorbike rider does a wheelie then goes 100mph down A47 Acle Straight

the lead rider selected a lower gear and very sharply accelerated, lifting the front wheel in a wheelie as they did reaching a speed of in excess of 100mph.


Nobody but the copper and the judge will ever know the truth, I guess....
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