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Ebbs73
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PostPosted: 21:46 - 05 May 2016    Post subject: Belgium and Germany roads advice Reply with quote

Evening , I'm just after some advice on a few roads .

I'm off to Ypres in June and then heading into Germany For a few days.
I've read on here a lot about the Black Forest and nice roads towards Luxembourg , I've been map looking but I'm a bit lost .
Would you have an idiots guide .

Thank you in advance as BCF always has the answer .

Chris
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PostPosted: 06:35 - 06 May 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

I did the opposite route with a group of mates last year. We been over to the Alps and came back through Germany and Belgium, then stayed at Ypres before coming home! Stayed at a fantastic campsite at Ypres with a bikers only area.

The roads through Belgium were aweful we found, horrible road surface, and pot holes so big even the trucks swerved to avoid them...

We did the B500 in Germany...
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PostPosted: 08:50 - 06 May 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Agree ^

I've generally found Belgium roads to be badly surfaced and relatively dull.

If you are going anywhere near the Black Forest you must do the stretch of the B500 between Baden Baden and Freudenstadt. It is an awesome road with fast, sweeping, open bends travelling through some great scenery.

We did it on the 2015 Eurojolly, the clicky link is in my sig.
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PostPosted: 09:00 - 06 May 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Since so many sing it's praises, I'm going to be doing the B500 through the Black Forest myself, but I've noticed on the map there are some interesting-looking gnarly little roads to the west of it, where the terrain appears to be a bit more hilly. Just a matter of having the time to explore them, but I don't think the surfaces will be so good.

I've seen a video of someone doing some roads in Belgium that looked ok surface-wise, and nice and twisty with it, so I don't suppose they're all bad.

Going to be exploring the north-eastern corner of the Belgian Ardennes. Scenery is supposed to be nice, but no idea yet what the roads will be like. We'll be mostly off the major routes for that bit I think.

The way I look for interesting roads is quite simple. On the map, look for roads through areas of close-packed contour lines or other indications of hilly/mountainous terrain, roads that follow winding rivers or lakesides. The more squiggly the road on the map, the more engaging it is likely to be to ride. Although with Belgium, our trip is about exploring areas of historic interest, so I guess we'll just deal with whatever is thrown at us.

Then you've got https://www.bestbikingroads.com
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PostPosted: 09:27 - 06 May 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Watch the speed limits on the B500. It has become a necessity due to the carnage that takes place there now. Heavily Policed, especially at weekends. It is best avoided at weekends full stop. Unmarked Police Bikes are also used. Typical fines for a minor transgression are €100,- and payment is expected at the time. They will even escort you to a Cash Point, or the station if you can't pay.

Try researching routes here https://www.bestbikingroads.com
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PostPosted: 15:58 - 06 May 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ali in Austria wrote:
Watch the speed limits on the B500.


Laughing LOL

Ali in Austria wrote:
Heavily Policed, especially at weekends.


Really? We did not see a single a single police officer on the B500 when we were there. Speed limits were ignored, no kittens were injured.
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PostPosted: 17:11 - 06 May 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

speed cameras is the thing to watch .. don`t look like a "Normal" camera

completly missed it i did .. fortunately it was forward facing ... even after it went off i could not identify the fcukin thing... was in some weird post / pillar type of thing Neutral
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PostPosted: 18:05 - 06 May 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Matt B wrote:
Ali in Austria wrote:
Watch the speed limits on the B500.


Laughing LOL

Ali in Austria wrote:
Heavily Policed, especially at weekends.


Really? We did not see a single a single police officer on the B500 when we were there. Speed limits were ignored, no kittens were injured.


As you wish. Just putting it out there. I know a few who have been caught over the last couple of seasons.

A resident advised me over the winter that Bikes have been banned on some roads around Titisee-Neustadt because it had become such a problem.
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PostPosted: 18:21 - 06 May 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Copycat73 wrote:
speed cameras is the thing to watch .. don`t look like a "Normal" camera


They also paint them camo green to blend in.
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PostPosted: 19:37 - 06 May 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ichy wrote:
Copycat73 wrote:
speed cameras is the thing to watch .. don`t look like a "Normal" camera


They also paint them camo green to blend in.

Doesnt realy matter though does it, they dont chase you over here for the fine. Its only if a copper catches tou that you will get a fine. Also likewise for the total lack of police presence around the 500, we didnt see any last year.
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PostPosted: 20:09 - 06 May 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dave V4 wrote:

Doesnt realy matter though does it, they dont chase you over here for the fine. Its only if a copper catches you that you will get a fine..


i was warned not to take the piss .. one,two or even three minor indiscretions resulting in what would have been a fixed fine and they cannot be bothered ... 120 in a 30 would be different.. Tut Tut
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PostPosted: 20:16 - 06 May 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dave V4 wrote:
Doesnt realy matter though does it


Not for you but I spend a lot of time in Germany. Most of the cameras are forward facing anyway.
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PostPosted: 14:24 - 07 May 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ali in Austria wrote:
A resident advised me over the winter that Bikes have been banned on some roads around Titisee-Neustadt because it had become such a problem.


Do you have an actual source for proof of that or is it just hearsay? I'm interested because I might be back in that area soon. Find it hard to believe it's true.
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PostPosted: 16:36 - 07 May 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

There were sections of the B500 where bikes were banned during the weekend, just not sure which bits or if it is still in place?
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PostPosted: 19:04 - 07 May 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Matt B wrote:
Ali in Austria wrote:
A resident advised me over the winter that Bikes have been banned on some roads around Titisee-Neustadt because it had become such a problem.


Do you have an actual source for proof of that or is it just hearsay? I'm interested because I might be back in that area soon. Find it hard to believe it's true.


I run a Biker Friendly B&B here in Austria. It comes up in conversation with guests. I also have my own experiences of the B500. Sorry I can't be more specific. Plenty of headlines in the German Press about the number of Bikers killed and seriously injured this year already. The authorities won't ignore it. Just making you aware. Take it or leave it.
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