Honda MSX 125 - equivalents?

[B5234FT]

So if you liked the idea of the MSX125 or Grom but wanted something older and less expensive, what else offers the same fun for nipping around town?

I had a 125 supermoto which was great fun but 2 stroke. They do 4 stroke equivalents but what else offers similar riding fun?

[mrbox]

Honda Dax OR Chaley similar money to a new MSX
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[chris-red]

C90?
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[woo]

how cheap are we talking as you can a msx for anywhere between £1500-£2200 second hand
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[M.C]

KSR110 is the only bike I can think of that's close to the MSX:
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/kawasaki-ksr-110-/121973611075?hash=item1c66319a43:g:hpYAAOSwiYFXJi1F

Dunno how much they normally go for, I believe they're fairly rare imports.

Another quirky bike that's small/light's the Sachs Madass 125. IIRC they're the same weight/power as the MSX, only thing's they're very easy to steal.

[Evil Hans]

MZ TS125. Obviously.
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[JoeDaStudd]

Old school monkey bike?

kawasaki have the z125 coming soonish which might drop the price of the grom, but it's a wait and see

[craigs23]

A second hand MSX125 or Grom?

[Ste]

A full license offers much more fun than a CBT.

[thx1138]

Original 2T vanvan from days of old?

[Rogerborg]

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Probably not very available or common or cheap here, but the Kawasaki KSR 80 would be the MSX rival that I want and if I could find one localish I'd snap it up.

12bhp liquid cooled version of the AR80 in a light pit bike for the road, what's not to love?

[andyscooter]

Honda navi
May not get it but loooks cheaper
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[kawashima]

If sold in U.K., D-Tracker 125 (klx125 with 14 inch tyres) may be one choice. It has 5 speed gearbox not like msx125 or z125.
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Usual answer; road legal pit bike.

Same sort of engine, a good bit less weight.

Probably more likely to be nicked.

I'd get a big chain with either!

I'd take the 125 2 stroke for fun on the roads.

[Sable]

Was also thinking of road legal pit bikes.

Is it just an accepted thing that there are very few non-chinese pit bikes?

£1400 seems to be the upper limit on price brand new and as little as £900. Probaly less if you shopped about.

[B5234FT]

[Rogerborg]

Hmm, yes, comparing asking prices against eBay selling prices shows that they aren't commanding the premium that they used to.

Long term longevity is still a bit of a question mark, but if it's hit-it-and-quit-it, why not?
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[craigs23]

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[craigs23]

Mine had a HRC tank pad too - gotta be a worthy mod. 10% bhp boost some say...

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