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stinkwheel
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PostPosted: 10:25 - 07 May 2016    Post subject: What are the chances of me getting my bike taxed today? Reply with quote

Just resurrected the KLE500. It's been parked up for 7 or 8 years neither SORN-ed or taxed. There were some demands for money with menaces shortly after it was parked up but I gave them an emphatic and confident "Take me to court or go fuck yourself.", it being over 6 months from the date of the offence by that point. Heard no more about it.

I moved house 4 years ago and registered the change of address on the V5 so I have a current, new-style V5.

Got an MOT yesterday and am in the process of getting insurance for it (system is down, need to call back in 15 minutes).

As an exercise, I decided to try taxing it before the insurance to see what would happen in the event I bought a new bike and rode it home.

Fallen at the first hurdle. They can't find the bike on their system when I enter the registration and document reference off the V5.

I'm heading off into the post office shortly armed with the full V5, a certificate of motor insurance and an MOT certificate.

How do you rate my chances of getting it taxed?

EDIT: Just checked. The MOT history shows up when you check. So part of the database knows the bike exists.
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PostPosted: 10:26 - 07 May 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'll go with high. Think you'll be alright.
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PostPosted: 10:30 - 07 May 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

I presume they give you some sort of receipt to show you've paid your tax?

If the bike is not showing up on the DVLA database, which as far as I'm aware is what the ANPR systems use, I'm concerned a policeman may decide he's going to take it off me.
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PostPosted: 10:31 - 07 May 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

^^^What arry said^^^
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PostPosted: 10:33 - 07 May 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

60/40 in favour of you getting brief. But carry docs / receipt around with you.
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PostPosted: 10:36 - 07 May 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

stinkwheel wrote:

If the bike is not showing up on the DVLA database, which as far as I'm aware is what the ANPR systems use, I'm concerned a policeman may decide he's going to take it off me.


It's showing up on check vehicle tax fine
https://www.vehicleenquiry.service.gov.uk/

I've just looked (got reg from your pics) and it's showing as having a valid MOT so that's updated already
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PostPosted: 10:40 - 07 May 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok.

Just tried again and it's let me tax it this time.

The bike is not yet insured.

Interesting.
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PostPosted: 10:54 - 07 May 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had a similar problem with my Landrover, hardly ever drive it, forgot about the tax which was now three months expired, no reminder from DVLA. Luckily I managed to find a copy of the V5, so off to the Post Office, they scan the bar code from the V5, paid my £0.00 (made sure I got a receipt for the vast sum of money) and all's good.
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PostPosted: 10:57 - 07 May 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

stinkwheel wrote:
Ok.

Just tried again and it's let me tax it this time.

The bike is not yet insured.

Interesting.


Indeed. I thought not being on MID would certainly cockblock getting tax.
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PostPosted: 11:02 - 07 May 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

GT200Fan79 wrote:
stinkwheel wrote:
Ok.

Just tried again and it's let me tax it this time.

The bike is not yet insured.

Interesting.


Indeed. I thought not being on MID would certainly cockblock getting tax.


It's why I wanted to check.

I suspected they'd have dropped the insurance thing when they went onto direct debit. I was betting they wouldn't stop taking teh moneys when your insurance runs out and that they wouldn't have made a seperate system for DD and card payments.

Kind of nullifies the only valid argument they ever had for simply adding VED to fuel rather than charging it direct. They used to say it was to make sure all vehicles were MOTed and insured.

EDIT: Also, if carole nash don't hurry up and answer the phone, I'm going with someone else online. I wanted to be out and riding this fucking bike an hour ago.
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PostPosted: 11:09 - 07 May 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

stinkwheel wrote:


It's why I wanted to check.

I suspected they'd have dropped the insurance thing when they went onto direct debit. I was betting they wouldn't stop taking teh moneys when your insurance runs out and that they wouldn't have made a seperate system for DD and card payments.

Kind of nullifies the only valid argument they ever had for simply adding VED to fuel rather than charging it direct. They used to say it was to make sure all vehicles were MOTed and insured.

EDIT: Also, if carole nash don't hurry up and answer the phone, I'm going with someone else online. I wanted to be out and riding this fucking bike an hour ago.


Daft isn't it. So because they couldn't be bothered to implement properly the whole continuous insurance thing has now been compromised, if that's the case. Oh well....


As for Carole Nash - stuff em mate, there's plenty others out there willing to take your money right here right now.
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PostPosted: 11:27 - 07 May 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

arry wrote:

As for Carole Nash - stuff em mate, there's plenty others out there willing to take your money right here right now.


They answered LITERALY as I was pressing the button to hang-up.

Only reason I was calling them was because my other bikes are there and it's a PITA having the insurance run out at different times.
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PostPosted: 14:54 - 07 May 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

stinkwheel wrote:
Just tried again and it's let me tax it this time.

The bike is not yet insured.

This matches my understanding. When They screwed us over by tying VED to the keeper helped us by getting rid of the physical tax disc, They also said that they would be removing the requirement to have the bike showing on the MID in order to pay VED, because:

1) You might just have bought and insured it, so it wouldn't be showing yet, but you "need" to pay VED on it straight away as well.

2) They can blackmail us later if it stays uninsured.

Which reads to me like: "We'd rather have the money now, and we can always chase you for more money later."
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PostPosted: 18:35 - 07 May 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

stinkwheel wrote:
I suspected they'd have dropped the insurance thing when they went onto direct debit. I was betting they wouldn't stop taking teh moneys when your insurance runs out and that they wouldn't have made a seperate system for DD and card payments.


Maybe not for Insurance, but they did send me a letter saying if my bike wasn't MOT'd by the 1st of May they wouldn't continue taxing it. Even though my DD is still setup, they haven't taken the payment.
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PostPosted: 18:43 - 07 May 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

AnPhonEh wrote:
stinkwheel wrote:
I suspected they'd have dropped the insurance thing when they went onto direct debit. I was betting they wouldn't stop taking teh moneys when your insurance runs out and that they wouldn't have made a seperate system for DD and card payments.


Maybe not for Insurance, but they did send me a letter saying if my bike wasn't MOT'd by the 1st of May they wouldn't continue taxing it. Even though my DD is still setup, they haven't taken the payment.


Interesting,

My MOT ran out on 18th April and I've had no such demands.

Confused
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PostPosted: 16:50 - 08 May 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

I hate these 'happy ending taxing un-sorned/registered vehicle' threads.

I have no happy endings when faced with DVLA hurdles. Sad
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