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 Posted: 10:53 - 11 May 2016  Post subject: Britain is not a racist country. |
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Is the opening sentence from a novella length treatise titled Race and Faith: the Deafening Silence by Trevor Phillips. Yes, that Phillips. Founding chair of the Equality and Human Rights Commission, populariser of "islamophobia" as a tool to shut down exactly what he's now saying.
I previously characterised him as giving multiculturalism both barrels. At this point he's packing Ripley's assault-rifle-flamethrower-grenade-launcher.
It's a long read, but he's put a lot of thought into it, and I think it's worth it.
https://www.civitas.org.uk/content/files/Race-and-Faith.pdf
Since I know we're unlikely to read it all the way though, I'll pick a few choice passages of SJW baiting, bolded for extra outrage.
| Trevor Phillips wrote: | rather than producing integrated societies in which race and ethnicity count for less and less in our destinies, western societies are more and more stratified by these characteristics. Different racial, ethnic and cultural groups display objective differences in behaviour, achievement and outcomes, often for reasons largely unconnected to discrimination
Any attempt to ask whether aspects of minority disadvantage may be self-inflicted is denounced as ‘blaming the victim’. Instead, we prefer to answer any difficult questions by focusing on the historic prejudices of the dominant majority. In short, it’s all about white racism. |
Uncle Tom! UNCLE TOM!
| Trevor Phillips wrote: | Liberals like myself have [...] tended to prevaricate, stuck in the past. We have been far too slow to acknowledge the fact that race itself is no longer a purely black and white affair. We have been even less enthusiastic about accepting that the different sets of values and behaviours prevalent in some ethnocultural communities present a serious challenge to the process of integration in our society |
[stage whisper] HE'S TALKING ABOUT... YOU KNOW...
| Trevor Phillips wrote: | an inconvenient truth [is] that some minority groups hold very different values and ambitions than those commonly held amongst the dominant majority; that those values and ambitions are even further away from liberal ideals than the average; and that because they are sincerely held by those groups, they aren’t going to change any time soon. |
Say it, Trev. Ssssssaaaaaay iiiiiiiit.
| Trevor Phillips wrote: | [Christians, African or African Caribbeanss, Jewish, Hindu and other minority communities all hate fags of course]. But the most sensitive cause of conflict in recent years has been the collision between majority norms and the behaviours of some Muslim groups |
Jackpot winrar!
| Trevor Phillips wrote: | [Rotherham, Rochdale, Cologne, Sweden, Lara Logan, ethno-demographic time-bomb, drownded Aslans, muslims don't integrate, separate education, snackbar, Charlie Hebdo, halal only menus in schools, Enoch Powell, virtue signalling]
the most dangerous trend in my view, has been the recent over-use of the epithet ‘racist’. This word (and its close cousin, ‘Islamophobe’) is now freely applied to almost anyone who disagrees with liberal orthodoxy on matters of racial and religious difference. |
 I honestly wonder, if you put this out with Tommy Robinson's name on it, would he be up on hate speech charges again? 
That's the bare bones headlines that you'll doubtless read, along with Britain's Burning and Rivers of Blood. There is some genuinely interesting meat in there too though, that segues into the NHS spat.
| Trevor Phillips wrote: | the Ipsos MORI study of GP patient opinion – a sample of over 100,000 individuals – for 2013 shows that British Bangladeshi and Pakistani Muslim groups, corrected for class and geography, are 40 per cent less likely to rate their GPs as ‘very good’ than the average person. Yet NHS doctors are far from being an all white, all Christian grouping, prone to discriminate against people of colour. So what is it about the way that these millions of British people interact with a universal service that gives them less satisfaction?
We can’t yet answer that question. But we can take some clues from a study conducted some years ago for Tower Hamlets Health Trust. And they tell us that it may have very little to do with racial discrimination, nor to do with new immigration, and everything to do with persistent differences in cultural expectations. Between 2002 and 2004 use of A&E in Tower Hamlets doubled; local hospitals struggled to meet the government’s four-hour waiting target. Analysis of 200,000 attendance records, using technology developed by my colleague Richard Webber, showed that users were disproportionately Bangladeshi. The first assumption was that this was an immigrant problem – older people who didn’t really understand the system
But analysis showed that the over-users were a group with age spikes at 0-5 and 20–29 – in fact, young families with British-born parents. Further focus groups showed that, when Mohammed or Asma fell off the slide, unlike their classmates, the decision to take children to A&E was a family decision.
And older Bangladeshis believed that GPs were less professional – not real doctors – no white coats, no battery of intrusive tests. Targeted educational campaigns reduced the over-use in target hospitals within a year: there was a 6.4 per cent total decline in 2005/06 compared to increases of 3.6 per cent and 2.6 per cent in neighbouring hospitals. GP attendance figures rose and savings were significant at between £55-100 per visit to A&E; and the four-hour waiting targets were met. |
His conclusions are disappointingly Milquetoast, sadly, but as he seems increasingly disgusted with the liberal legacy that he's built, I'd view it as another step in his journey to common sense, rather than the destination. I'd like to extend my hand to help him along the way.
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Posted: 12:22 - 11 May 2016  Post subject: |
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Less de-socking, more reading.
Forget Trump, ponder Trevor Phillips as a UKIP candidate. 
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| Posted: 23:07 - 11 May 2016 Post subject: |
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| Reservoir Dog wrote: | https://s19.postimg.org/4kovtyc5v/Screenshot_2016_05_11_19_43_33.jpg
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| Lord Percy wrote: | No idea what he used to promote before |
Equality and integration. Nothing particularly wacky, he just promoted the narrative of a white majority oppressing everyone else.
Which did used to be largely true, first wholesale, then retail, and it did need addressed. But the momentum of that black-and-white story carried it past the fork in the road where "everyone else" changed from predominantly Christian Caribbean migrants with a fairly common heritage with Brits, to a smorgasbord of cultures, some of which (you know) have no real interest in integrating, and many of whom who don't even particularly like each other.
For example, Aamer Anwar, the Scotch human rights lawyer, has highlighted the stubborn racism shown by brown Pakistani muslims against black African muslims in Glasgow mosques. So you need to go way beyond lumping all non-whites in together, and distinguish specific problems with unique combinations of skin tone, religion, and sub-sect. If you pretend those problems don't exist, how can you address them?
I liked the headline "active integration", and the notion that we need to target people's natural instinct to act in their own self interest. However, I think he still drew back from grasping the nettle of explaining what possible interest anyone would have in cosying up with a culture that chooses to remain stubbornly isolationist and regressive. You know the one.
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 9 years, 229 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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