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PostPosted: 11:10 - 16 May 2016    Post subject: Mileage discrepancy on MOT check. Reply with quote

On my way to view a bike, ran a quick MOT check on .gov website, & theres a years gap in between tests in which the recorded mileage drops from 32k to 22k. Is there a legit reason for this? Cause for concern?
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PostPosted: 11:17 - 16 May 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Clocks been swapped?
If so, why? Been crashed and trashed old ones? Were old clocks in Km and were swapped for UK ones in Miles? Does the buyer still have the old clocks?

I'd definitely be questioning this either way.
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PostPosted: 11:24 - 16 May 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mistype.

32k could quite easily become 22k.
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PostPosted: 11:25 - 16 May 2016    Post subject: Re: Mileage discrepancy on MOT check. Reply with quote

Hefty wrote:
...Is there a legit reason for this?


Probably not.

Hefty wrote:
Cause for concern?


Yes.

OK, it could be a typo by the MOT tester - but it's more likely a dodgy seller trying to pull a fast one.

Or it could have had a replacement speedo, but then:

1) Why? eg Has it been crashed? And...
2) The true mileage is now anyone's guess

So, yeah - possibly, maybe there could be a legit explanation. But more likely there's something undesirable going on.
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PostPosted: 11:26 - 16 May 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sounds questionable. Especially if it was off the road for a period of time and came back onto the road with a lower mileage.

Sounds like it's been binned and rebuilt over a couple of years.

Trad carefully.
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PostPosted: 11:28 - 16 May 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cheers for the quick respons Arfa.
Would all the old test reports show Km readings in miles then? i.e do the testers just punch in the no. & the report will state miles regardless. If clocked were swapped out due to crash damage what other telltale signs should I look for?
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PostPosted: 11:31 - 16 May 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Could be an engine swap...

whats the reg, so we can have a look at the mots
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PostPosted: 11:31 - 16 May 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hefty wrote:
Cheers for the quick respons Arfa.
Would all the old test reports show Km readings in miles then? i.e do the testers just punch in the no. & the report will state miles regardless. If clocked were swapped out due to crash damage what other telltale signs should I look for?


Crash damage signs are the bottom of the forks usually. This is a good place to check. Swingarm, rear sets (ie on the bottom of the pegs, look for rash). Engine casing, bar ends, look down when you are riding and see if the yoke is straight and not to one side.

Also let go of the handlebars on a ride, see if it starts to shake.
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PostPosted: 11:32 - 16 May 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

tom_e wrote:
Mistype.

32k could quite easily become 22k.


Thats a substantial typo. 10k's worth of mileage is a lot to just materialise out of thin air.

Theres a gap of a year inbetween tests in which its been off the road. Dealership is 'reputable' if theres such a thing (Fins, Redhill) you'd think they'd run these basic tests when they take a bike in?
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PostPosted: 11:34 - 16 May 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

CaNsA wrote:
Could be an engine swap...

whats the reg, so we can have a look at the mots


T728 JDB Bandit 600.

Id screenshot the pic but im on the bus on my phone.
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PostPosted: 11:55 - 16 May 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

The MOT mileage history of my bike is a mile out due to a "typo"

Basically, instead of reading the total mileage, the read the trip mileage and added and extra zero to it. I noticed it at the time and they reprinted the cert with the correct mileage, but the on-line history still shows 14K one year, jumping to 66k the following year and going back down to 21k the year after that.

So basically, the on-line history is worth bugger all, as the data is being recorded by complete muppets.
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PostPosted: 11:58 - 16 May 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

All muppetry taken into account, the discrepancy still coincides with a year off the road. My doubts have escalated somewhat since opening this thread.
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PostPosted: 12:11 - 16 May 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

get the £1.89 check

https://totalcarcheck.co.uk/

Then share the link.
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PostPosted: 12:13 - 16 May 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmmm....
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PostPosted: 12:29 - 16 May 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's not a typo, it's a clock swap or a wind-back.

It's a 17 year old Bandit, the dealer isn't going to give a stuff, and nor will they know the story - at best they'll be reporting it 2nd or 3rd hand, no worries mate, no worries.

Judge it based on its condition, but it's worth a handful of loose change. It's not like there's a shortage of private sale Bandits around.
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PostPosted: 12:43 - 16 May 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hefty wrote:
tom_e wrote:
Mistype.

32k could quite easily become 22k.


Thats a substantial typo. 10k's worth of mileage is a lot to just materialise out of thin air.

Theres a gap of a year inbetween tests in which its been off the road. Dealership is 'reputable' if theres such a thing (Fins, Redhill) you'd think they'd run these basic tests when they take a bike in?


Not really if it was on 32xxx and then the next year becomes 22xxx all they had to do was hit the 2 instead of the 3.

After looking at the history that doesn't appear to be what's happened in this case as the milage has stayed around the 25k mark for 2 tests which is stretching the realms of it being a mistype.
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PostPosted: 13:19 - 16 May 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:
Judge it based on its condition


One look at it & you can see its gone down on its left side, possibly at speed too. Was only looking at Bandits cause they're cheap to insure, & ive got a theft claim & central Croydon postcode bumping my premiums. You're right though there's no shortage of them.
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PostPosted: 13:24 - 16 May 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Walked away? Good man. You don't want to buy an obviously crashed bike that the ZX-6R that CaNsA just got mugged off with.
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PostPosted: 13:39 - 16 May 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:
Walked away? Good man. You don't want to buy an obviously crashed bike that the ZX-6R that CaNsA just got mugged off with.


Colour matched gaffer tape for the fucking win.
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PostPosted: 13:50 - 16 May 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

The mileage on my Superfour is all over the place. Went from 68,000 kms to 600 and then back up to 72,000.

Changed the clocks to some cheap Chinese clones, then changed the internals back to stock items again when they started going wrong.
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PostPosted: 15:09 - 16 May 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:
Walked away?


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While we're on the subject of past MOT records (& their viability..) if records only go as far back as 2010 on a '99 reg bike what will that tell me? Is it imported?
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PostPosted: 16:31 - 16 May 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wouldnt worry too much. My local mot place even put the completely wrong bike for me.

Cb1000 is it. Not a cb1300. Laughing
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PostPosted: 16:33 - 16 May 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wouldnt worry too much. My local mot place even put the completely wrong bike for me.

Cb1000 is it. Not a cb1300. Laughing
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PostPosted: 19:20 - 16 May 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hefty wrote:
Rogerborg wrote:
Walked away?


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While we're on the subject of past MOT records (& their viability..) if records only go as far back as 2010 on a '99 reg bike what will that tell me? Is it imported?


When did MOT's go online?

Possible that the clocks stopped working for some reason and they've simply been swapped out, owner didn't think / know how to set them correctly or didn't think it'd be an issue ilke myself - I don't plan on selling my bike so the neutral light not working and kickstand switch not working are just little quirks to me but probably a deal breaker if I do sell

Perhaps the previous owner thought the same and forgot to do anything about it before listing it for sale.
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PostPosted: 19:26 - 16 May 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't think records go any further back than that.

Edit - Just checked my W reg Fazer and the records for that go back to 2006.
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