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suffolkbiker
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PostPosted: 11:15 - 23 May 2016    Post subject: BMW R1200GS running costs Reply with quote

Was watching the Long Way Down the other day and of course became tempted by the allure of the BMW R1200GS.

Idly searching ebay I see you can get one for as little as £3500 with 50k on the clock.

Obviously this is a complex bike to maintain but that does seem a lot of bike for the money. - or is there a horrendous service required at the 60k mark or something?

Anyone got any experience?
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PostPosted: 11:19 - 23 May 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Isn't it the most recalled bike ever made?
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PostPosted: 12:20 - 23 May 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

wr6133 wrote:
Isn't it the most recalled bike ever made?


It is also the ugliest, overrated and downright homosexual.
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PostPosted: 12:43 - 23 May 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

wr6133 wrote:
Isn't it the most recalled bike ever made?


No.

Possibly a most envied bike 😎
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PostPosted: 12:44 - 23 May 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

wr6133 wrote:
Isn't it the most recalled bike ever made?

Not really. DVSA says only 6 recalls. Of course, that's just recalls, not the engine paint, failed electrics, or even the terminal head shake on the 2013 models which never happened and wasn't the cause of them adding a steering damper.

I'd expect that running costs will be fairly low until they've very high. You don't want to be the owner to get left with the bill when the final drive fails, for example.

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=r1200gs+final+drive+failure

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=r1200gs+head+shake

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=r1200gs+abs+failure

And so on, and on, and on.

Why the GS? Other big tourers in faux-offroad clothing are available, or BMW do 1200s with suffixes other than "GS". I only got my midi-GS because it was pov spec and actually cheaper than an equivalent F800R at the time I bought it.
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PostPosted: 13:15 - 23 May 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

To be blunt, do you really need an 'Adventure' bike?
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PostPosted: 13:22 - 23 May 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

The older air head boxers built a reputation for reliability, longevity, simplicity and easy servicing.
The newer models have moved further and further away from that, while gaining power and size.
Basic servicing should still be pretty easy - the cylinders stick out the side, so plugs, tappets and throttle body balancing couldn't be more accessible.

However, as 'borg has helpfully linked, there are plenty of expensive bits that might need sorting.
My personal favourite is a clutch change. I think it's something like 5 hours by the book as you have to remove the back end of the bike. Here's a good how to:
https://www.ukgser.com/forums/showthread.php/259838-1200GS-clutch-change-how-too
I'm only mentioning that as based on the mileage, if it hasn't had one recently, I'd consider the real possibility of one in the not too distant future.

Edit: They're also massive, and heavy to push in and out of the garage.
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PostPosted: 16:43 - 23 May 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

jnw010 wrote:
The older air head boxers built a reputation for reliability, longevity, simplicity and easy servicing.
The newer models have moved further and further away from that, while gaining power and size.
Basic servicing should still be pretty easy - the cylinders stick out the side, so plugs, tappets and throttle body balancing couldn't be more accessible.

However, as 'borg has helpfully linked, there are plenty of expensive bits that might need sorting.
My personal favourite is a clutch change. I think it's something like 5 hours by the book as you have to remove the back end of the bike. Here's a good how to:
https://www.ukgser.com/forums/showthread.php/259838-1200GS-clutch-change-how-too
I'm only mentioning that as based on the mileage, if it hasn't had one recently, I'd consider the real possibility of one in the not too distant future.

Edit: They're also massive, and heavy to push in and out of the garage.



Not 'that' heavy😀
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PostPosted: 18:02 - 23 May 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

MCN wrote:
jnw010 wrote:
The older air head boxers built a reputation for reliability, longevity, simplicity and easy servicing.
The newer models have moved further and further away from that, while gaining power and size.
Basic servicing should still be pretty easy - the cylinders stick out the side, so plugs, tappets and throttle body balancing couldn't be more accessible.

However, as 'borg has helpfully linked, there are plenty of expensive bits that might need sorting.
My personal favourite is a clutch change. I think it's something like 5 hours by the book as you have to remove the back end of the bike. Here's a good how to:
https://www.ukgser.com/forums/showthread.php/259838-1200GS-clutch-change-how-too
I'm only mentioning that as based on the mileage, if it hasn't had one recently, I'd consider the real possibility of one in the not too distant future.

Edit: They're also massive, and heavy to push in and out of the garage.



Not 'that' heavy😀

It took three of us to lift my mates when he dropped it! Shocked Oh and he's having problems with one of the four coil packs but they are only £150 each! Sad
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PostPosted: 18:19 - 23 May 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 19:17 - 23 May 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

As one of the gullible masses who owns a GS LC, I love the versatility of the bike. It's quick enough (just), it's comfy, handles well and is, above all else, fun on all types of road. I ride two-up all the time and stuff like the Fazer 1000 and Z1000SX are great solo, but not so good with a pillion onboard.

Now scamera vans and unmarked police cars are spoiling the fun on faster roads, adventure style bikes are making the bumpy, twisty backroads of the Lakes and Dales much more fun than they ever where on sportier bikes Thumbs Up

P.s. Mine's just had a new engine due to corrosion Embarassed
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PostPosted: 19:33 - 23 May 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

mailee wrote:

It took three of us to lift my mates when he dropped it! Shocked Oh and he's having problems with one of the four coil packs but they are only £150 each! Sad


They're really not hard to lift at all, here's me lifting mine after the side stand slipping off my boot - https://youtu.be/0VcHkHn7ktg

The clutch issue is the main reason I wouldn't touch another one. I'd get an older 1150 for many grands cheaper if I wanted one. It was the reason I sneakily traded mine in and hoped they didn't notice. Valve services and such are cheap on the GS, but it's the parts and longevity that are the big costs.
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PostPosted: 20:28 - 23 May 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

They're pretty popular commuter bikes in London, with both panniers on they are pretty wide though so unless the panniers are packed full then they would be better to off left at home.

I think they are great looking bikes, but unless you're using it off the roads regularly i i could think of plenty of other tourers I'd rather ride.
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PostPosted: 22:37 - 23 May 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Albigularis wrote:
They're really not hard to lift at all, here's me lifting mine after the side stand slipping off my boot - https://youtu.be/0VcHkHn7ktg

Link-breaking period removed.

1-1-1-1-1-1-1 for great lulz.

That did come up pretty easily, although granted you didn't have half the Snap-On catalogue hanging off it like a proper Charlie. Whistle
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PostPosted: 22:46 - 23 May 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok so what's an alternative?
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PostPosted: 22:57 - 23 May 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
here's me lifting mine after the side stand slipping off my boot


that soundtrack is not safe for work - sounds like some dodgy Russian porno
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PostPosted: 23:26 - 23 May 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

MCN wrote:
Not 'that' heavy😀


Yeah okay, there are heavier bikes out there, but I remember getting off one and getting straight onto old Speed Triple. It felt lighter (because it was) smaller and a lot more fun. At that point I thought, fuck having a GS, really what is the point (for me at least).
I wouldn't mind an original airhead GS in the garage, but they're not exactly cheap anymore.
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PostPosted: 23:40 - 23 May 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Silver_Fox wrote:
Ok so what's an alternative?


Depends what your budget is. I'd probably take a Triumph Tiger Sport (the older 1050) instead of a GS. If you want to go down the cheaper route, you can pick up the old-shape V-Strom 1000s for very little now. Varadero 1000s are pretty cheap, or if you want to look properly hardcore, there's the KTM 990 Adventure.
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PostPosted: 08:26 - 24 May 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Silver_Fox wrote:
Ok so what's an alternative?


New Africa Twin (Just don't forget to clean your spokes)

KTM 950/990 Adventure (Fill up two fuel tanks at each stop must get wearing)

V Strom 1000

Triumph Tiger

VFR800, Sprint ST would also be decent bets as very few every ride any of the above off road anyway.
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PostPosted: 08:50 - 24 May 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aprillia Caponord (normal & Rally) , Super Tenere etc
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PostPosted: 09:23 - 24 May 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've got intentions for a tracer, hopeful that they are comfy over long distances. If you want proper big comfy adventure tourer I hear the multistrada is good but now we're talking a lot more than the OP's budget!
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PostPosted: 11:48 - 24 May 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had one for a day, so no idea about running cost, was very comfy, and tall, so a bit like sitting in a scania cab, also a bit high and wide for my normal filtering, although that may be down to not being used to the bike.
But, the thing, the one big thing, I really disliked about it; despite of the two big cylinders sticking out the sides, my boots were bloody manky afterwards, I mean really bad, worse than weeks and weeks of winter commuting on the GT, in one day! it's not like I even took it off-road.

so, in answer, it'll cost you more on boots or boot cleaning/treatment

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PostPosted: 13:27 - 24 May 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:
You don't want to be the owner to get left with the bill when the final drive fails, for example.


I know someone who has had to replace two in the last year.
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PostPosted: 15:03 - 24 May 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

sickpup wrote:
Rogerborg wrote:
You don't want to be the owner to get left with the bill when the final drive fails, for example.

I know someone who has had to replace two in the last year.

Surely not on the same bike?

To lose one final drive may be regarded as a misfortune; to lose both looks like carelessness.
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PostPosted: 04:00 - 25 May 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:
Surely not on the same bike?

To lose one final drive may be regarded as a misfortune; to lose both looks like carelessness.


Spoke to him this evening. 1st went so was replaced with a 2nd hand low mileage one that lasted 30k ish before dead. Bike is an 09 model year.
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