Awkward design details on production motorbikes

[Wafer_Thin_Ham]

Inspired by a thread on PH, what design details on motorbikes grate with you?

I offer the mirrors on the 2011-2015 ZX10R. They sit too low, on weird mounts and look like they're made out of plastic from Matalan. You've just sent over 10k on a new bike, and they think it's acceptable?

https://www.motorbeam.com/wp-content/uploads/2014-Kawasaki-Ninja-ZX10R-Review.jpg

And the weird duck bill on the front of the current S1000RR, tell me the designer didn't just sneeze whilst doing that bit.

https://motorcycle.com.vsassets.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/061915-2015-bmw-s1000rr-KWP_3826.jpg
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[M.C]

What grates with me is that bikes like cars are all starting to look the same

[Wafer_Thin_Ham]

Just remembered the "hidden" radiator on the new Bonneville, and the Reg/Rec as a styling piece beneath the headlight. Tuck it out of the way!

https://www.motorcycle-usa.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/T120-Black-Matt-Graphite-Front-Quarter.jpg?378220

No radiators here.
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[grr666]

Standard mirrors on street triple R will be the first thing I remove once I have one of those. Ugly as sin, and useless too.
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[Wafer_Thin_Ham]

Clutch cable routing on the 2001 CBR600F. Who signed that off, right across the speedo.

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/2aL7Llq-3TY/maxresdefault.jpg

I think I might need a lie down.
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[stinkwheel]

ER6N side pods.
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[chickenstrip]

The thing I don't like most on many a modern bike is all the little plastic covers bolted on here, there and everywhere, with no attempt to make them flow into one another, or hide their cheapness.
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[NJD]

Every "big bike" that is not designed with security in mind. Out of the countless models I've looked at while window shopping I've lost count of how many I've looked at that have little to no obvious ways of being changed through the frame to an unmoveable object, I can see clearly why so many get stolen as commuters, the design flaw may work for you're average weekend rider who leaves it outside the pub and not out of sight but isn't suitable for leaving for hours on end out of sight and view of cameras.

That being said I do very much applaud the sports bike that have a gap in the swingarm to put a chain through.

[recman]

I have two gripes about my bike, both involve key hole locations being awkward.
I know the seat lock is awkward for a reason but the ignition location is a bugger if your bunch consists of an alarm fob and padlock keys.

[Rogerborg]

When manufacturers dick around with horn/indicator positions or methods just to be Special. I'm looking at you BMW and now Honda.
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[Polarbear]

Stereo/computer controls on the Triumph Trophy.

https://www.motorcycle.com/images/content/Review/2013-Triumph-Trophy-Left-Handlebar-Switches-0622.jpg

You can't operate it without taking your hands off the bars. You need to have a memory like Einstein and a degree in rocket science to understand it. FFS Triumph, when you are blatantly copying BMW, steal the clever bits and dump the poor, not vice versa.
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[Ichy]

It's part of my job to ensure concepts can be built. Designers may be my nemesis and many engineers are on the special bus when it comes to thinking out of the box but buyers are the destroyers of originality. Cost drives everything.
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[B5234FT]

I dont mind the mirrors on the triple, but the underseat key lock is a pain, as is nowhere to chain through the frame, the stupid unshielded radiator, the horn sticking out the left side, the way the geometry ensures ANY moisture ends up all up your back....

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[M.C]

Actually every bike built since 1970 (whenever it was) annoys me... having neutral between 1st and 2nd gear. Why? I've yet to ride a classic bike, but N-1-2-3-4 etc. sounds a lot more sensible, as you normally have the clutch in when downshifting to first anyway.

Having neutral in a position where you can get it on an up or downshift, normally when you're racing someone away from the lights, or taking a tight corner is really annoying. Obviously some bikes are better than others but overall it's the one thing I would change about bikes.

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[spottedtango]

The entire Cx500 design. Honda had a chance to build a cool water cooled guzzi but they made that instead

It was only slightly redeemed by the 650 turbo with eurostyling

[chris-red]

[spottedtango]

[chris-red]

Bikes with a single sided swingarm that you have to remove the exhaust to change the wheel
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