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FlightRisk
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PostPosted: 15:17 - 27 May 2016    Post subject: Knees pains on long journeys Reply with quote
Have been doing some longer trips lately and am finding after a couple of hundred miles the insides of my knee joints are complaining. Even the day after.

Is it something I'm doing on the bike? Riding too tense? I have been making an effort to stay loose on the bars but you're supposed to hug the tank a bit with your legs right?
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winz
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PostPosted: 15:23 - 27 May 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote
Just relax. Maybe try some new rear sets that are lower down.

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PostPosted: 16:05 - 27 May 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote
I'm guessing CB500S.

I know all you racebikers will think it's laughably upright, but I do have to note that the peg position is still a little behind the knees, which I just can't be doing with any more.

Both my current rides have natural legs-dangling sitting positions rather than any sort of instep-behind-knees, which is a big factor in why I've not managed to find anything to replace them with. Everything I try now just feels pointlessly awkward and uncomfortable, even a Bandit 600. I'm not racing, why do I need to brace my feet?
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PostPosted: 16:25 - 27 May 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote
Sometimes your trousers bundle up behind the knee to the extent it might interfere with blood flow or press on a tendon.
Test riding naked would resolve this. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 17:45 - 27 May 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote
Rogerborg wrote:
I'm guessing CB500S.

I know all you racebikers will think it's laughably upright, but I do have to note that the peg position is still a little behind the knees, which I just can't be doing with any more.

Both my current rides have natural legs-dangling sitting positions rather than any sort of instep-behind-knees, which is a big factor in why I've not managed to find anything to replace them with. Everything I try now just feels pointlessly awkward and uncomfortable, even a Bandit 600. I'm not racing, why do I need to brace my feet?


This, this, THIS.
Although I would add I just found recently that the Bandit is still infinitely more comfortable than the CB500.
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PostPosted: 21:25 - 27 May 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote
Stop for a 2/3 min. break and walk a little bit every hour or so.
It may affect your concentration like cold hands do. Smile
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PostPosted: 23:22 - 27 May 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote
I used to suffer with my knees on the R125. I put it down to the riding position of (don't laugh now) sports bikes. I've ever had this issue on the YBR or er6f.
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PostPosted: 00:09 - 29 May 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote
Sat on a CBR600ManyRRRRs in a shop, I have no idea how people can ride those things any distance, felt like a jockey!

I'd love a taller 'adventure' style bike but it's not on the cards at the moment. And I've realised I'm really riding tense on unfamiliar roads. Just can't relax! Confused
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PostPosted: 00:21 - 29 May 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote
I actually liked the sports bike position of riding tbh. I felt more at one with the machine, if that makes sense. It's just not as comfortable over longer journeys or as you get older.
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PostPosted: 01:01 - 29 May 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote
Rogerborg wrote:
I'm not racing, why do I need to brace my feet?


It keeps the weight where it's supposed to be. Bike feels more stable (especially when windy) and will feel lighter and easier to handle at low speeds. Most large bikes like the GS' end up with riders leaning on the handlebars which isn't a good thing.

Sports riding position makes sense after a week or so of ownership, you naturally fall into it, it means you can feel the bike much better, sets you up perfectly for fast riding etc... For a while you have to actively contort yourself to ride like that, but it becomes second nature.

FlightRisk wrote:
I'd love a taller 'adventure' style bike but it's not on the cards at the moment. And I've realised I'm really riding tense on unfamiliar roads. Just can't relax! Confused


Does your bike have heel plates? If so, wedge your feet down against them and the peg together so that they stay fairly well put without input. Less lateral movement needed at the knee from the pelvis should stop pain the whole way down. Make sure you're keeping your feet straight as well.
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PostPosted: 02:22 - 29 May 2016    Post subject: Re: Knees pains on long journeys Reply with quote
FlightRisk wrote:
Have been doing some longer trips lately and am finding after a couple of hundred miles the insides of my knee joints are complaining. Even the day after.


You can get lowering pegs to fit the stock footrest mounts that will let you unbend your knees a bit, it doesn't take much. I don't know if you'll have much luck finding rearsets let alone ones with sufficient adjustment.

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I'm had the same issue on a few different sports bikes over the years, I've rarely had any issues with clip on bars, but many bikes bend my legs so much I can't really move them and it becomes really painful fairly quickly. In fact, I've just bought adjustable rearsets for the GSXR so I can drop the pegs a bit.
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PostPosted: 10:00 - 29 May 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote
Albigularis wrote:
Sports riding position makes sense after a week or so of ownership, you naturally fall into it, it means you can feel the bike much better, sets you up perfectly for fast riding etc...

But I don't do that, and someone doing long distances (presumably many motorway miles) on a CB500 isn't likely to be doing it either.

I understand the benefits if you're banging it through the bends or making the jump to light-speed, but OP's problem is comfort, not lap times.
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PostPosted: 10:07 - 29 May 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote
Rogerborg wrote:
Albigularis wrote:
Sports riding position makes sense after a week or so of ownership, you naturally fall into it, it means you can feel the bike much better, sets you up perfectly for fast riding etc...

But I don't do that, and someone doing long distances (presumably many motorway miles) on a CB500 isn't likely to be doing it either.

I understand the benefits if you're banging it through the bends or making the jump to light-speed, but OP's problem is comfort, not lap times.


This is why I bought my Deauville.

It may look boring but for eating up miles in comfort and carrying all my stuff with me I can't fault it, just the thought of doing 80 miles a day on a sports bike makes my back ache!
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PostPosted: 21:44 - 29 May 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote
Doink wrote:


This is why I bought my Deauville.



After doing the chain cleaning and fiddling thing today I was thinking about switching to a Deauville. And maybe get a white Arai, and a high-vis parka and join rospa and try to start conversations with people about the vanishing point.
I'm not the biker I thought I'd be. Confused
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PostPosted: 22:25 - 29 May 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote
FlightRisk wrote:
Doink wrote:


This is why I bought my Deauville.



After doing the chain cleaning and fiddling thing today I was thinking about switching to a Deauville. And maybe get a white Arai, and a high-vis parka and join rospa and try to start conversations with people about the vanishing point.
I'm not the biker I thought I'd be. Confused


I thought about getting a Honda CB500, until I blew one away today that couldn't keep up with me after assuming I'm one of those guys.

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PostPosted: 22:33 - 29 May 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote
Doink wrote:
I thought about getting a Honda CB500, until I blew one away today that couldn't keep up with me after assuming I'm one of those guys.

Smile


To be fair though, anyone who buys a cb500 thinking it's one of the faster sports bikes is an idiot.
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