Car 0-60 vs Bike 0-60 who is quickest ?

[gsxr600menace]

I was watching Bravo last night and they had the fastest road legal 0-60 cars, the quickest one was an audi 80 with a short wheel base with a 0-60 of 3.2, i notice that bikes have figures of 2.7 0-60 but is this 0-60 actually possible ? does anyone know any websites with actual bike 0-60 times on ?
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[mrchips]

Most magazines give dyno and speed testing print outs when they review bikes. Dunno about bike websites but www.parkers.co.uk gives car stats.
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[Fruit'n'nut]

[MarJay]

Actually,

Bike 0-60 times have increased within the last few years, purely because you can't launch a bike easily at full pelt without wheelying. I seem to remember someone writing into BiKE mag claiming that the 0-60 times in the back must be wrong because the original 1993 speed triple (steel framed, 98bhp, 200kg) had a faster 0-60 time than a blade or something.

They claimed that it was because the speed triple was easier to launch from a standstill, and the blade would own it in a 0-100 race.

Most mags publish rubbish standing quarter times, which mean nothing in the real world really.
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[jaffa]

[Zoffo]

A gs1150 has a 0-60 time faster than a Blade. Bikes with all the power low down often beat super sport where the power band doesn't kick in till 7000 rpm.

Many big bikes easily make 60 in first gear so it's often all about traction and keeping the front wheel down. Big Sports tourers have the fastest 0-60 speeds coz they tend to be long and heavier but offset by more horses. Never tried it myself (clutches aren't free) but the Blackbird is supposed to be good for 2.8 0-60 but some of the 200+ gang will probably be along soon to snort at that

[Fruit'n'nut]

[mchaggis]

[Kickstart]

Hi

Calculated times are speeds are of no real use to anybody.

In some ways the theoretical best 0-60 time would be about 2.7 seconds, as that is 1g acceleration and you only have 1g holding the back wheel on the ground. I reality tyres can have more grip than that.

As to bikes not needing to change gear, that also means they do not get into the power. ZX10R has a first gear speed of over 100mph, which probably means at 60 it is still waiting to come on cam.

What would be more interesting is knowing how many clutches they went through trying to get the Audi to get to 60 in 3.2 seconds.

All the best

Keith
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[G]

A few cars can beat bikes, stuff like the Tiger z100wr should be faster than bikes, thanks to a longer wheel base and low center of gravity.

When you get to modifying, you can put a bloody big engine in a car, which gets rid of the weight disadvantage and makes use of the extra traction and long wheel base etc.

[Silver]

[skyline]

Hmm, but then you look at some of the cars like the one im about to post in the vids section. They gave up on 0-62 (or 60 whatever) and do 0-300kph :O (i assume thats about 180-200mph never found the exact figure). Im sure at some point they will create 'wheelie control' so's to speak, well they will make more of them (just thought dont they have them which but of fuel?). So that way no matter how far back the throttle is pulled the front wheel stays on the floor and then maybe bikes can move forward in 0-62mph runs...

[loply]

With regards to the powerband argument (that bikes dont reach their power till above 60mph),

Surely the point of the clutch is that you hold the throttle fully open at high revs (in the powerband) and slip the clutch to keep it like this?

You dont dump the clutch so its fully engaged and drive from 2,000rpm surely. Also, you would use the clutch to moderate the drive so that its nearly wheelying constantly wouldnt you? Thus accessing all the power that is possible for the chasis, disregarding the location of the powerband.
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[The#Doctor#]

uve got 2 remember that that car was suped 2 the max most cars wont be able 2 do 0-60 in under 8 even a porche only in about 5 the average sport 600 with no ad ons will do it 3

[Andy99]

I dare say Mr C may be able to help us out here with the stats on bikes modded for straightline action.
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[Zoffo]

[loply]

Zoffo,

Thats exactly what I mean. The powerband being high in the revs is irrelevant, as via the clutch you will be putting down the max permissable power anyway.

So what does it matter that your power doesnt kick in till 8,000rpm and youre static?
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[Johnny GSX-R]

I can vouch for the Blackbird having one hell of a low down ability to launch itself. Its about correct clutch control and power combination, the front needs to be just shy of the ground and held there thus transfering the weight/drive to the rear tyre.
I have a family member with a 480BHP Cosworth Sierra and its NO match for the bike, his suspension is too hard for one and the weight transfer just lights his tyres (wasted ponies).

[NickD]

[Kickstart]

[jaffa]

I quite like this, not sure of the actual figues but I think the supercharged version was around 3 seconds to 60mph.
https://www.arielmotor.co.uk
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[DynaMight]

Standard road going bikes vs standard road going cars = Bikes win.

When you start getting modified cars then they start getting closer, I mean theres only so fast a bike can get to 60MPH without flipping, After that it'll need extended swingarms and stuff.

It's pretty much the same with 0-100 and 1/4 miles too, Standard GSXR/R1/Fireblade will do a 1/4 in sub 10.5 secs, You'd need a 500+ BHP car to get anywhere close to that.

Cars have the higher top speed though, my 600 would probably cream a Ferrari in 0-60, 0-100 and 1/4 mile but it would keep going upto like 200MPH.

£9,000 GSXR/R1/Fireblade gives more smiles per £ than a £100,000+ Ferrari, Thats for sure Unless your a posing git (Then you could always get a Ducati :p )
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[Davo]

[dodsi]

This is horses for courses...

at 19 what kind of car can I afford to run?

1 litre something...0-60 eventuially.

OR

500cc bike with a sub 5 second (if your brave) 0-60 time...

HMMMMMM

its all about bang for your buck with bikes.

[Krs]

I had a film of a coswroth beating a r1