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Doink
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PostPosted: 21:48 - 22 Jun 2016    Post subject: Filling up after using reserve Reply with quote

So I had to use my reserve today, was only a few miles away from a petrol station so there was no drama, but it got me thinking about what position should the reserve tap be while filling up.

Does it need to be in the reserve position or the normal one?
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PostPosted: 21:54 - 22 Jun 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can't recall it mattering when I filled my old bikes tank.
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PostPosted: 22:00 - 22 Jun 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

On all bikes that I can remember, the reserve tap just takes the fuel from a little lower on the same 'pipe' in the tank.
So it wouldn't make the slightest difference where it was when you filled it.
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PostPosted: 22:00 - 22 Jun 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

t121anf wrote:
Can't recall it mattering when I filled my old bikes tank.


Well this is what I was thinking, does it matter?

I have a spare 2 litre tank I keep in one of my panniers anyway so running out of fuel totally is unlikely.
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PostPosted: 22:03 - 22 Jun 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

It doesn't matter. You don't have two tanks, it's just two different height tubes attached to the tap - the reserve is the lower one. Just remember to take it off reserve after filling, otherwise you may run it dry by accident.
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PostPosted: 07:41 - 23 Jun 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Shaggy D.A. wrote:
Just remember to take it off reserve after filling, otherwise you may run it dry by accident.

Put it back on main before filling.

Then put it back on main after filling.

Then the first time you stop, put it back on main again. Wink
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PostPosted: 09:41 - 23 Jun 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:
The Shaggy D.A. wrote:
Just remember to take it off reserve after filling, otherwise you may run it dry by accident.

Put it back on main before filling.

Then put it back on main after filling.

Then the first time you stop, put it back on main again. Wink


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PostPosted: 11:48 - 23 Jun 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

This picture should answer your question...

https://g01.a.alicdn.com/kf/HTB1IshrIXXXXXaFXXXXq6xXFXXX0/Fuel-Tap-Tank-Polaris-425-Magnum-ATV-Shutoff-Petcock-Valve-Switch-Assembly.jpg
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PostPosted: 14:21 - 23 Jun 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

being a tight scotch git I would always fill up after using reserve as it meant I'd to spend an extra couple of quid at the forecourt Crying or Very sad
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PostPosted: 14:33 - 23 Jun 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Doink wrote:
reserve tap


Just to be an arse..

.. The what? I've heard of a fuel tap with a reserve position but not a reserve tap. Rolling Eyes

..

I turn mine of to fill up, just a habit. I've also filled up while siting on the bike in the past. I'm still here either way.

.. Biggest thing about petrol stations for me is I end up checking the pump says unleaded about a million and one times before filling up. I'm convinced one day I'm going to pick up the diesel one by accident.
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PostPosted: 14:40 - 23 Jun 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

personally, i fill up at a certain mileage on the trip. ie 185 miles regardless of how much is in there. i very rarely use the reserve if i can help it due to the possibility of dragging crap through the carbs - that way mine is pretty much always in the same place. it doesn't matter where the tap is set when you are filling up..

that habit has its down sides though. for example the loan bike (2005 kle500) i got from the local bike place to use whilst they do my MOT worked fine for a mile or so before it cut out.. i checked the tank which had loads of fuel... it didn't occur to me to put it on "reserve". i push it for ages and almost drained the batter trying to get it to start.
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PostPosted: 16:56 - 23 Jun 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

NJD wrote:
Biggest thing about petrol stations for me is I end up checking the pump says unleaded about a million and one times before filling up. I'm convinced one day I'm going to pick up the diesel one by accident.


Glad it's not just me that does that. Laughing
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PostPosted: 17:15 - 23 Jun 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

NJD wrote:
Doink wrote:
reserve tap


Just to be an arse..

.. The what? I've heard of a fuel tap with a reserve position but not a reserve tap. Rolling Eyes


A stupid arse too because a reserve tap is not uncommon.

Having two taps on a motorcycle tank was very common up to the early 70's. Tanks had a marked central tunnel so fuel couldn't get from the lower 1/4 of the tank on one side over to the other side, there was a tap at the lowest point in each side. The reserve consisted of the fuel that was in the bit of tank overhanging the central tunnel on one side. You'd leave one tap on and one off, turning them both on for reserve.

Some bikes even had tanks made in two halves and bolted together. Harley in particular. This dates back to total loss oiling systems when half the tank was for oil and theo ther half for fuel.
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PostPosted: 18:22 - 23 Jun 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

stinkwheel wrote:
70's.


How long ago? Shocked

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PostPosted: 18:49 - 23 Jun 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Actually, I'd forgotten that my '63 AJS had two taps Embarassed
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PostPosted: 19:06 - 23 Jun 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Before there were two taps. There was a single tap and if you ran out of fuel, you stopped the bike and tipped it WAY over towards the tap side so the fuel sat in the non-tap side of the tank slopped across.

This still works to an extent if you're running on bare fumes.

Also remember it's easier to carry a petrol tank than to push a bike if you run out altogether. You also stand a good chance of being given a lift if you're walking down the road carrying a petrol tank.
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PostPosted: 19:23 - 23 Jun 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

stinkwheel wrote:
informative stuff


Interesting, I wonder in regards to crap in the bottom of petrol tanks though...
Is this a natural byproduct of the inside of petrol tanks deteriorating?
Or if one was to start with a clean tank of fuel and run a bike daily should running down the reserve not be a problem?

I ask as I often run through the reserve and just work off the trip clock.
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PostPosted: 19:31 - 23 Jun 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Apparently, the most remote spot in the UK is 26 miles from the nearest petrol station. I could do that with 1 litre on the YBR, but would need half a gallon on the Enfield, if I rode it normally. Once you get past the top 10, you're not more than 8 miles away from the nearest petrol station, which even at 30mpg is only 1.25 litres. If you're in a position where you're likely to run out, it'd be useful to carry a litre bottle with you.
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PostPosted: 19:58 - 23 Jun 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wonder why they stopped putting in two taps. Even fairly modern bikes like the Hornet were notorious for having loads of unusable, inaccessible fuel in the tank.
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PostPosted: 20:12 - 23 Jun 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

OP didn't say what bike, but if your running a two smoke with the oil pump thrown in the bin, make sure you switch off the fuel before filling up and do the shake it all around and fork bounce dance before you flip the tap back on.

Some oils are a nightmare to get to mix properly, but most modern injector and also pre-mix suitable oils tend to mix far better.
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PostPosted: 20:16 - 23 Jun 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

stinkwheel wrote:
if you ran out of fuel, you stopped the bike and tipped it WAY over towards the tap side so the fuel sat in the non-tap side of the tank slopped across.


I got almost 3 miles home doing this once. It was in bursts of a few hundred meters at a time though.
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PostPosted: 21:09 - 23 Jun 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

the biggest problem with my classic and fuel is the pump failing.

Exup is 26 years old...
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PostPosted: 17:17 - 24 Jun 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

NJD wrote:

.. Biggest thing about petrol stations for me is I end up checking the pump says unleaded about a million and one times before filling up. I'm convinced one day I'm going to pick up the diesel one by accident.


Whistle

Really annoying when you are in a hurry. So don't notice. And then spend ages getting the stuff out again

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