BMW G 310R

[RhynoCZ]

The new BMW's A2 friendly motorcycle will be avalible in October this very year. I'm not sure what they are trying to achive here, but it is definitely nice to have something else but MT-03 and Z 300 to pick from. USD front suspension and aluminium swingarm are a bit unusual at this category of motorcycles, but other than that, it's pretty standard A2 motorcycle with ABS.

The engine is a result of cooperation of BMW and TVS Motor Company (Indian concern). The engine development took place in Munich, so they say. More models with this engine are expected (Enduro and Sports motorcyle with full fairings).

Specs.
Engine - Single cylinder, four stroke with 4 valves DOHC head, DFi
Displacement - 313ccm
Power output - 25kW @ 9,500rpm
Torque - 28Nm @ 7,500rpm
Gearbox - 6 speed, wet clutch
Weight - 158kg (wet)
Tank - 11L

Retail price: 130,500CZK (incl. VAT) / 3,703.28GBP (EDIT by Oldie: £4,290)
(Looking at the local Kawasaki dealership and 130k is pretty close to what the Z 300 goes for these days - Z 300 (ABS): 139,900CZK; Z 300 (no ABS): 124,900CZK)

Source (info and pictures NOT in English): https://www.motorkari.cz/clanky/moto-novinky/bmw/bmw-g-310r-v-prodeji-od-rijna.-zname-cenu-34402.html

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[Loui5D]

jesus, that makes an Inazuma look good.

[Rogerborg]

It's not setting even my pulse on fire.

Sales of the new 300s have been pretty poor in the UK, and I don't see that this brings anything new to the sector.

Substantially less torque and power than an Indian made Duke 390, but on the other hand, it weighs more.

No, wait...

Price will be critical, BMW managed to kill sales of the G650GS overnight when they bumped the price up.
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[DrSnoosnoo]

If I was to buy a A2 bike, I'd be buying the Duke. Yes it's Indian but it seems this Beemer is too.

The Duke gets you right on the limits of what's allowed power/weight wise and I doubt BMW will even consider being cheaper than the cheaper than the competition.
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[RhynoCZ]

I think BMW will sell tons of those, not in Europe, but if launched in north America, they will sell well, because of the BMW badge.
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[Rogerborg]

Maybe, but that would be a sad indictment on bike buyers. BMW have a pretty poor quality record on their modern bikes, and producing them in India isn't likely to help with that.
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[Beehive Bedlam]

Anyone with half a wit will buy an A bike what can be restricted to fall into the A2 category and do the A tests on it when the time comes after they have removed the restrictor in the test centre car park.

Alternatively pay a training school again to use their A category bike though I would much rather have to not pay and do it on the bike I was used to riding day in day out.

[RhynoCZ]

Yes Roger, but modern consumers buy things because of branding and badges. People don't buy a Mercedes-Benz because they need a car, they buy a Mercedes-Benz, because they want a Mercedes-Benz (hence the ''new/affordable'' A and B klasse).

At God.i: Mind you, the licensing tests are not the same in all the 27 (+UK) member countries of the EU.
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[Vracktal]

I'm actually hoping this is a sales flop, and that's speaking as a BMW owner. For me they've been getting complacent, lowering quality and cutting costs because they think they can count on the badge to shift units.

With this 300 they had an opportunity to at least match the KTM for specs and instead phoned it in with this yawn of a motorcycle. And until they start seeing sales diminish they won't start innovating again.

For what it's worth, I think the same goes for Apple too.
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[Alawson68]

[Rogerborg]

[BTTD]

Am disappoint BMW.

If it had hints of hipster R9T or the old style R80GS I would be looking at it and thinking... not bad.
But it's so bland and uneventful.

[Rogerborg]

It's got a definite "designed by committee to offend nobody" look about it.

They're pushing the "girls' bike" marketing pretty hard too - maybe they should ask Suzuki how well that worked out with the Gladius.
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[stevo as b4]

[BTTD]

[Rogerborg]

[wr6133]

I like the bike in the first picture, shame about the BMW she is sat on.

I don't get though why there isn't a slew of A2 bikes right on the power limits. It seems (to me anyway) from the threads we see asking about A2 bikes that a whole load of bikes could be shifted by the first company to relaunch an IL4 400cc, if people will pay for a shitja 300 or a puke 390 then I'm sure a new baby 'blade would fly out of the showrooms.

[techathy]

[Rogerborg]

[stevo as b4]

That's torque from the larger cylinders not doing very much work for thier size. We aren't making boat or generator engines here, and don't need to overbuild for strength or dependency.

As for a new 400cc baby blade, it would not need to be an IL4 engine design to get just 47bhp from even 300cc let alone a 400. There seems no point adding weight and cylinders and cost to a design when you don't need them to get the performance required.

And if your thinking IL4 because you just want one, or think they are superior or just closer in ethos to a real blade, it's not a rational business decision to build a bike that is only suitable for EU regs.

But otherwise I like the idea of deliberate specific 47bhp compliant bikes, they are still better to ride and I'm not sure other why they don't sell.

[techathy]

[Monkeywrenche...]

[Rogerborg]

[techathy]

[herulach]

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