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 Posted: 23:28 - 24 Jun 2016 Post subject: Congrats |
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Them there Scotchees might want to check the price of Brent crude oil before they start banging on about another referendum  ____________________ Make mine a Corona. |
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I expect the UK to end and think it's an awesome time to live.
It won't be one of war or destruction, it'll be an amicable and democratic end to an extremely important chunk of English/British history. Quite a time to be alive.
But I think it's necessary. Something about life in the UK had become very stale. No sense of identity, being part of the EU machine, etc. This potential huge new change could be just what we all need to properly glue society back together and make people proud of themselves as one large cohesive community again, with our own regional identities that go beyond north/south and England/Scotland (sorry Wales) and a certain sense of togetherness that I think is lacking these days. Leaving all these apparent 'unions' may be just what's needed.
Though it's nothing to do with economics or whatever else, I think social identity and cohesion is a major issue and, as right wing as it sounds (I do confess to being a real Nationalist Socialist, heh), national identity is extremely important for making a populace happy. A break up of the UK will certainly make people think more seriously about who they are again. Communities will grow closer out of it.
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Naturally, the regions sharing a normal, land border* with another EU country voted overwhelmingly Remain. So did Scotland, for a number of its own reasons.
What they will do now relies mostly on whether we will remain in EEA. If yes, not much will change in practical terms.
However, the Leave movement is against half of the idea of EEA; they want an open market for goods and services, but not an equally laissez-faire idea of people choosing themselves which state's services to purchase with their taxes.
Our New Beloved Leaders (NBL) may attempt to negotiate a deal to have the half of EEA they like, but I think good luck with that - it is a bit like negotiating with Pizza Hut to have the half of the relationship in which you eat the pizza, but not the half where you pay for it.
Consequently, much depends of the NBLs' attitude; if they get real, things may just work out**. If they rise up in a sacred anger against Establishment, Diktat and Climate Change Myth (a very possible course of action IMO) we may find ourselves on a course towards United Kingdom of Wales and Most of England.
*That includes St Pancras.
**Not necessarily for Scotland. |
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 Posted: 07:47 - 25 Jun 2016 Post subject: Re: Congrats |
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 Posted: 08:44 - 25 Jun 2016 Post subject: Re: Congrats |
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Lapping up the naysayers in the left wing press will do you more harm than good. Dry your eyes, believe in yourself/this country and get on with the job in hand. I'm afraid that's your only option (or emigrate). ____________________ Now: A100, GT250A, XJ598, FZ750
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 Posted: 10:07 - 25 Jun 2016 Post subject: Re: Congrats |
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You still here? I thought you'd have been forcibly repatriated by now.  ____________________ TZR250 2MA road, TZR250 1KT road, TZR250 2MA race, TDR250, YZF-750R Boost colours.
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Were you a Remain campaigner? Are you sore about the referendum result? Check out these 10 top self-comforting strategies.
1.) Call every white person who voted Leave a "racist", ignoring the fact that Europeans are also white. Make sure you ignore and marginalise ethnic minority leave voters.
2.) Claim that the (huge) turnout wasn't high enough. 72%? It should have been at least 75%! 80%? It should have been 85%! Make sure to keep moving the goalposts.
3.) Make a stupid e-petition demanding another referendum, just like the socialists did when Labour lost last year. We need to keep having referendums until we get the "right" result.
4.) Get over-excited about the economy, even if the impact has been pretty boring and mundane. Pretend that your 2:2 in English Literature makes you an expert on currency markets.
5.) Attack the very idea of Democracy, because it's only a good thing when it goes the way you want it to. Working class voters don't know what's good for them, but middle class liberals definitely do.
6.) Share memes bashing Brexit, ignoring the unwelcome and uncomfortable realisation that you are in the minority of public opinion.
7.) Boldly claim that Scotland will leave the UK, forgetting that A) they can't afford to B) the EU can't afford to take them C) 1.6m remain votes don't cancel out 2m NO votes.
8.) Make fun of Boris Johnson while sweating slightly and really hoping he doesn't become Prime Minister.
9.) Learn absolutely nothing from the campaign, blaming the result on everyone but yourself. Scaremongering and bullying are clearly the best tactics to use, there's no way they could possibly backfire.
10.) Curl up in a ball and cry yourself to sleep while listening to "Ode to Joy". ____________________ TZR250 2MA road, TZR250 1KT road, TZR250 2MA race, TDR250, YZF-750R Boost colours.
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All this talk of winners and losers, as far as I can tell the facts indicate it's been a goaless draw.
The UK's still in the EU, for the forseeable future.
Little or no chance of article 50 being invoked in the near or medium term future.
CMD has washed his hands of the whole shebang and handed the poisoned chalice over to Gove and Boris, who are both politically stymied.
Our, glorious, MP's threatening to ignore and override the results.
The only things we know with absolute certainty, at the moment, are the UK is, currently, in a political vacuum, there will be a general election, sooner rather than later and the promised £350M per week for the NHS might have been a, fcukin', huge porky pie!
So, other than that, it's as you were last Wednesday, don't hold your breath and prepare for disappointment! ____________________ "Everybody needs money, that's why they call it money!"  |
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| Ribenapigeon wrote: | If people got cold feet about leaving the UK before then leaving when Europe is in turmoil from brexit is even less likely to look appealing. |
It's the other way around now. All the guys I know professionally are pissed off cos we all work across Europe and know how many jobs and how much money is going to be lost. All this bollocks of 'it'll be alright' - no it won't be. We work in the EU every day and have no understanding why people with zero experience keep telling us 'it'll be fine, just get on and do it.'
It'll be fine in a sense that we'll lose a lot, I will personally lose a lot of money, will see a lot of English jobs lost and see that money and jobs go to someone else in another EU country. If that's fine, I don't want to know your definition of 'bad.'
Strange how people with zero fucking experience of working in the EU are the first to say it'll be fine. ____________________ FZR400 (blown engine), ZXR750 (blown engine), ZX6R (accident), CBR600 which had engine issues after which I learned to change gear..., CBR900, CBR924 (stolen), CB600, CB1300 (everything blew up), BMW K1300GT (written off, hit from rear while stationary), Bandit 1250 for a couple of months, Triumph Sprint ST 1050 (nicked) and somewhere in there, I wrote off a Ducati 748 at Cadwell. |
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| gorillaonabike wrote: | | Ribenapigeon wrote: | If people got cold feet about leaving the UK before then leaving when Europe is in turmoil from brexit is even less likely to look appealing. |
It's the other way around now. All the guys I know professionally are pissed off cos we all work across Europe and know how many jobs and how much money is going to be lost. All this bollocks of 'it'll be alright' - no it won't be. We work in the EU every day and have no understanding why people with zero experience keep telling us 'it'll be fine, just get on and do it.'
It'll be fine in a sense that we'll lose a lot, I will personally lose a lot of money, will see a lot of English jobs lost and see that money and jobs go to someone else in another EU country. If that's fine, I don't want to know your definition of 'bad.'
Strange how people with zero fucking experience of working in the EU are the first to say it'll be fine. |
I hate to break this to you, but foreign people from outside the EU, work in the EU on a daily basis. It's not a new idea.
My brother in law is French, I don't think he's expecting to be forcibly repatriated either.
Na, go on, carry on panicking...... ____________________ TZR250 2MA road, TZR250 1KT road, TZR250 2MA race, TDR250, YZF-750R Boost colours.
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 9 years, 185 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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