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MarkJ
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PostPosted: 12:37 - 05 Jul 2016    Post subject: Getting an IT job at short notice Reply with quote

Hi all, my current job at the moment (IT engineer, 2nd/3rd line) seems to be a dead end with no hint of any progression despite my best efforts. They are running a voluntary exit scheme currently to save some cash and do an overhaul. I have put myself forwards for this exit scheme and if I were to be accepted stand to get quite a large lump of cash.

The managers still need need to look at everyone who has applied and choose who they want to leave, and who to keep. If they allow me to take the exit scheme I'd want to get a job pretty sharpish, as I'd be getting 6 months pay with the voluntary exit scheme. So to make it worth my while I want another job lined up so I'm not eating in to my payout.

So my question is: are there any easy ways of quickly getting a job in IT? I imagine this leads me down the contracting/temping route (I've always been permanent). Do IT temping agencies exist? Would I be making a bad decision by jumping ship?

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PostPosted: 13:24 - 05 Jul 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

What skills/certifications do you have at the moment?
What skills/Certs would you like to get?

Do you want to move over to a different area of IT or stay in the same bit?
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PostPosted: 13:33 - 05 Jul 2016    Post subject: Re: Getting an IT job at short notice Reply with quote

MarkJ wrote:
are there any easy ways of quickly getting a job in IT?

Nepotism.

Claiming that you can do whatever they say they want you to do. They quite likely don't know, or it'll all change in 6 months, so don't feel any qualms about it. The worst that happens is that you get paid for looking for something more suitable.

I have no idea what an "IT engineer, 2nd/3rd line" is.
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PostPosted: 13:52 - 05 Jul 2016    Post subject: Re: Getting an IT job at short notice Reply with quote

Loui5D wrote:
What skills/certifications do you have at the moment?
What skills/Certs would you like to get?

Do you want to move over to a different area of IT or stay in the same bit?

Only current training is Server 2012 training (haven't got round to taking the exams, was only on the course two weeks ago)
Interested in Cloud technologies and VMware

Ideally move onwards, but main port of call would be to pay the bills initially. I've done bits of everything so main areas I could move in to would be 3rd line, infrastructure, possibly devops (have some programming experience), or management (have team leader experience)


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Nepotism.

Claiming that you can do whatever they say they want you to do. They quite likely don't know, or it'll all change in 6 months, so don't feel any qualms about it. The worst that happens is that you get paid for looking for something more suitable.

I have no idea what an "IT engineer, 2nd/3rd line" is.

Arrow I wish I could rely on nepotism! Don't really know anyone.

Arrow I need to get to said interview first before I can bullshit

Arrow It's IT support. 1st line is basic stuff like password resets, 2nd line more advanced like hardware installs, 3rd line is specialist system designs etc. (roughly)
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PostPosted: 15:53 - 05 Jul 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Unfortunately your going to have to brace for the dregs who call themselves recruitment agencies.

Get your CV on Jobsite and keep removing and uploading it every few days. this way it will be closer to the top of any searches.
then be prepared for calls which have very little bearing to your CV.

You can install the Jobsite and Jobserve apps on your phone and have them alert you when a job comes in that matches certain key works, you have have a CV stored in your profile and "one click" apply.

in an ideal world you would see a suitable job, send a suitable cv, get and interview and secure the job.

in today's world recruiters are spamming all sorts of shit.
everyone is an IT expert because they figured out how to jailbreak their phones.
so it is one big fishing game.

one thing its really important to do is to grow a very thick skin, keep applying and taking calls from recruiters...
sooner or later the noise will turn into an interview.

if you get a face to face and the job spec has tech on their you are not familiar with then get familiar before the interview

Good luck.
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PostPosted: 15:56 - 05 Jul 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

ColinK98 wrote:
Unfortunately your going to have to brace for the dregs who call themselves recruitment agencies.

one thing its really important to do is to grow a very thick skin, keep applying and taking calls from recruiters...
sooner or later the noise will turn into an interview.


Recruiter Cunt - Do you have experience with Seekwull?

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RC - Seekwull

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PostPosted: 16:37 - 05 Jul 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

ColinK98 wrote:
Unfortunately your going to have to brace for the dregs who call themselves recruitment agencies.

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Went through all that shit a few months ago, thoroughly hated it.

Are there any sort of temping agencies where you're on the books and they send you out to places for a month or two?
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PostPosted: 17:18 - 05 Jul 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

CaNsA wrote:
ColinK98 wrote:
Unfortunately your going to have to brace for the dregs who call themselves recruitment agencies.

one thing its really important to do is to grow a very thick skin, keep applying and taking calls from recruiters...
sooner or later the noise will turn into an interview.


Recruiter Cunt - Do you have experience with Seekwull?


It's pronounced more like Sequel, and I've heard that plenty of times before in reference to SQL. We had a guy from the US who refused to refer to HTML as anything but 'Hotmeal'. That used to really get on my breasts.
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PostPosted: 17:36 - 05 Jul 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

I hear Seekwull and Ess Que Ell about 50:50. Since I am about as interest in databases as in the Venetian tax system under the Medicis, I try to let it wash off me.

This one deserves instant death though.

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PostPosted: 21:58 - 05 Jul 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

I too pronounce SQL 'sequel', it's what it used to be known as apparently:
https://patorjk.com/blog/2012/01/26/pronouncing-sql-s-q-l-or-sequel wrote:
Since the language was originally named SEQUEL, many people continued to pronounce the name that way after it was shortened to SQL. Both pronunciations are widely used and recognized.

Sequel Developer, Emm Ess Sequel etc.

I'm not a fan of the term Wintel
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PostPosted: 22:42 - 05 Jul 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

SQL is an acronym for Structured Query Language. So S.Q.L not sequel.

All the best

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PostPosted: 23:07 - 05 Jul 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kickstart wrote:
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SQL is an acronym for Structured Query Language. So S.Q.L not sequel.

All the best

Katy


As alluded to by markj, the original name for the language was Structured English QUEry Language, I.e. SEQUEL. It got changed sometime in the 70s
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PostPosted: 08:49 - 06 Jul 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Were are all the Nix fanbois ?
Or are they just a step too nerdy for BCF ?
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PostPosted: 08:56 - 06 Jul 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 10:06 - 06 Jul 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

MarkJ wrote:

Are there any sort of temping agencies where you're on the books and they send you out to places for a month or two?


Loads. We use three for our first line, I got my initial placement through Brook Street. Do some walking in your town, local agencies sometimes hear of work and haven't uploaded the job to their site yet, or are small and are harder to find amongst the spam from the bigger agencies.
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PostPosted: 10:32 - 06 Jul 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not all agencies are horrid.

I'm now in a permanent position after starting as a temp through Reed in Preston, they were actually really helpful and got me in the temp job within 2 days.
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PostPosted: 10:54 - 06 Jul 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

we had a bloke at IBM pronounce it 'SQUILL'

he didn't know any better.

amusement ensued and everybody rejoiced.


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PostPosted: 13:34 - 06 Jul 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

CaNsA wrote:
Me - Yes, I do have experience with SQL


Not that much, if you've never heard it pronounced as "Sequel".
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PostPosted: 18:12 - 06 Jul 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

MarJay wrote:

It's pronounced more like Sequel, and I've heard that plenty of times before in reference to SQL. We had a guy from the US who refused to refer to HTML as anything but 'Hotmeal'. That used to really get on my breasts.


Yeah I thought sequel was quite a common way of saying it too.

But hotmeal... Laughing
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PostPosted: 19:58 - 06 Jul 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

herulach wrote:

As alluded to by markj, the original name for the language was Structured English QUEry Language, I.e. SEQUEL. It got changed sometime in the 70s


Mmm, before it was ever commercially available....

Sequel seems mainly to be a US habit.

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PostPosted: 22:22 - 06 Jul 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anyone got any thoughts on me getting a job at short notice, or is the official BCF SQL/Sequel post now? Laughing
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PostPosted: 22:45 - 06 Jul 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just create another post, that one can be the sequel to this one...

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FTR: using "sequel" is very common.

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PostPosted: 23:41 - 06 Jul 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kickstart wrote:
Sequel seems mainly to be a US habit.


I've been referring to it since the late 80s. The usage I've heard is generally "Sequel" when referring to servers or databases, and "SQL" when referring to statements, and that's been in financial systems, web app design and NHS environments over the last 30 years.
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PostPosted: 00:14 - 07 Jul 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 07:37 - 07 Jul 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:
Platforms come, platforms go. VMS will rise again.


sshhhh ... next you'll be saying SCO will also rise again like a pheonix Smile

ColinK98 wrote:
Were are all the Nix fanbois ?
Or are they just a step too nerdy for BCF ?


We're still here, however, the op's skillset doesn't mention nix Smile

As most others have said, suffer the agency fools, jobsite is also handy as well, but again, be prepared for those phone calls that start 'Hi, came across your cv on jobsite ....'

Also, you the OP, hasn't said whether they are looking for permanent and/or contract work.

Ideally you'll want to be looking for an organisation, that along with giving you work, will also support you with training/qualifications and if you're really lucky, a defined career path Smile
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