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PostPosted: 19:38 - 31 Jul 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Your pix remind me of my Kiwi mate Craig in Sacramento.
I hope you make it past the Wrecking Crew's welcome.
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PostPosted: 19:41 - 31 Jul 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Touring and Exploration sub-forum might not be a bad place to open a thread on a past journey, mate.

Then nobody really can take any issue with the purpose of your thread.

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PostPosted: 20:45 - 31 Jul 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Polarbear wrote:
I'd like to tour America, either by bike or car. The only bits I have seen have been the less salubrious near docks. I did like Norfolk, Virginia though. Hooters was Wub


I've been to Norfolk...I love "bob's gun shop", best thing about the town
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PostPosted: 23:50 - 31 Jul 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

A friend of mine came from the Pocono Mountain area in Pennsylvania. She said the roads there are fantastic, until autumn when the leaves cover the roads.
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PostPosted: 01:21 - 01 Aug 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

M.C wrote:
Are they bike friendly? What with the no filtering (in some states), and the running bikers off the road who dare to cross a line (heinous crime that) I'd be a little nervous. Also I'd want to rent something decent, so not a Harley Thumbs Up


I'd say they are on par with the British driving public, possibly marginally more favourable towards bikers than Brits. Bikers here in Florida are generally middle classes with a few bob to spare, South Carolina seems to have what a Brit would consider more typical run-of-the-mill bikers with seemingly more street bikes than Harleys (I saw a, very nicely done, stretched Busa up there a few weeks back).

US drivers are poorly trained though, drive like shite and run over more bikers than the average Brit drivers.

Many Harley dealerships seem to offer rental options, I've no idea about the Jap/Euro dealerships but, remind me again, how many places are there renting decent bikes in the UK? Thinking
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PostPosted: 07:24 - 01 Aug 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

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present steed for the last 3yrs which is a Kawa Versys

It’s good to see a thumbs up for the Versys. Hubby is doing his full licence and was originally thinking about getting a V-strom.

However after sitting on various bikes at dealers trying to discover which bikes feel right for his long legs - and then having a little hoon around on the riding school’s Versys – he’s sort of fallen in love.

He doesn’t want a black or white bike and this year’s other colour is orange. I may have to persuade him to stop wearing yellow hi vis, as I fear the colour combination could be a tad eye watering. Shocked
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PostPosted: 10:33 - 01 Aug 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

To OP, no I've not considered a USA bike holiday because:

1, i don't fancy going to the US that much period. The flight is too long and I dislike flying so much it worries me and I can't relax.

2, All the biking abroad I've done or want to do has been on my own bikes. I want to ride to the abroad country I want to visit not fly there.

I have rented 50/100/125cc scooters in Greece and a few knackered old trail bikes too. But I wouldn't fly across the world to sit on a shiny Harley. I can go do that at Stratstone in Birmingham.
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PostPosted: 17:16 - 01 Aug 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

I rode a Harley in Florida. Was disappoint. 96 cubic inch (1,573cc) engine. Wouldn't go over 90mph. Not allowed to take it off the Florida Keys.

Rode it for 2 days then swapped it for a Chinese import 125 fitted with 18" apehangers, forward controls and with a flame paint job and slash-cut drag pipe (the guy had it through the back of the rental shop full of standard ones "I got just the thing for you son!").

Was awesome. Did Miami to Key West on it in a Hawaiian shirt, shorts and a head-rag and not a single fuck given.
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PostPosted: 19:18 - 02 Aug 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Had two Harley's in Yankland recently. They're OK - over there! Can't say I'd fancy hustling round uk roads though, but in Florida, 30degrees of heat, shirt, no helmet they weren't too bad. Unsure how a 1800cc bike struggles to crack a ton though.
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PostPosted: 21:54 - 02 Aug 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

I bought a ridiculously cheap Harley the other day (2005 Carb model Sportster) which I rode back from Lewes in Sussex. Mixed feelings about it and really only bought it because I knew if I did some work on it I could sell it and make a ridiculous profit.

Good points
Carb easy to work on and rebuild kits are cheap.
Abundance of spares made by third party companies
Sounds nice
Lots of info out there on them

Bad Points
Terrible brakes
Terrible suspension
Uncomfortable in general
Wiring loom is a disgrace
Mirrors are crap
Tank isn't really long trip friendly
It cooks in traffic
Low quality touches that just make you annoyed considering what they're charging.

Not really a fan of this one to be honest. I've rebuilt the carb and am now tacking the really shoddy wiring which is all over the place and consists of the cheapest wiring laid out in an exposed manner which has taken its toll. The battery cover fixings are a disgrace and Harley should be ashamed of themselves for using cheap plastic clips which (if you check the forums, break really easily). The agreed fix is cable ties which to me, is just disgusting considering the price of these things.


I'll reserve judgement on their other models but I'm not being won over here. Give me Japanese any day.
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PostPosted: 22:27 - 02 Aug 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

With stories like that and a generally poor quality reputation surrounding them, I'm just really surprised that the numerous Japanese Harley Davidson's havnt cleaned up and closed down Milwalkee iron for good.

Robby did explain it to me why the Jap Harley's arnt as good or popular or have much of a following, but I reckon I'd be much happier on a Shadow or Wildstar than the all American bone shaker.
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PostPosted: 22:39 - 02 Aug 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

stevo as b4 wrote:
With stories like that and a generally poor quality reputation surrounding them, I'm just really surprised that the numerous Japanese Harley Davidson's havnt cleaned up and closed down Milwalkee iron for good.

Robby did explain it to me why the Jap Harley's arnt as good or popular or have much of a following, but I reckon I'd be much happier on a Shadow or Wildstar than the all American bone shaker.


Its the power of the name that keeps them in business, oh and I'd dispute greatly that the Jap stuff just isn't as good, belive me. If Harley went the way of the Gibson and Fender guitar makers of the 70s and started producing Harleys over in Japan, then I think Harley would clean the market up.
The reason they haven't and the reason they haven't gone out of business is a very strong marketing department and the whole Harley "lifestyle" bollocks that people buy into. Don't get me wrong, I like the look of some of their models but the prices are just outrageous. I've owned a few Yamaha Dragstars and currently ride a Kwak VN2000 (which I'd put up against ANY Harley) and the quality is really excellent, just logically laid out, good brakes and suspension on all, comfortable ride and handling and generally great, precision workmanship. Harley's quality control and attention to detail leaves a lot to be desired comapared to the Japs who appear to be OCD over their research and design. Harley didn't even get their engine to stop leaking oil properly until the current Evo model engine - just fundamental things like that which American's think are "quirky" the Japanese would (rightly so) see as a major design flaw and address it.
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PostPosted: 20:11 - 11 Aug 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Motorhate wrote:
Harley didn't even get their engine to stop leaking oil properly until the current Evo model engine - just fundamental things like that which American's think are "quirky" the Japanese would (rightly so) see as a major design flaw and address it.


The evo engine came out in the 80's. I believe they are now on the twin cam design, and have been for some time.
The modernish history of Harley non-development is kinda interesting in that it went through bad times with various owners like AMF. When they finally got some decent investment they brought out the evo engine.

I'm not that familiar with the brand new bikes, but to some extent I think Harley are stuck between really modernising and upsetting the main customer base who don't want big changes. Conservative lot, bikers.

Have to say, they are eye wateringly expensive in the UK though.
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PostPosted: 01:03 - 12 Aug 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

mpd72 wrote:
jnw010 wrote:


Have to say, they are eye wateringly expensive in the UK though.


That's agricultural machinery for you. If you think Hardly's are expensive, you should see how much a combine harvester costs in the UK.


Probably something to do with the fact that they have great handling and are very useful machines (quite possibly faster than a Hardly too). Laughing
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