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grant965
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PostPosted: 21:00 - 29 Aug 2016    Post subject: Exporting 1080p footage Reply with quote

Hello,
Just looking for a bit of help with regards to whats best to do.
I've bought a Garmin Virb XE, similar to a gopro but it records data as well as video (elevation, temperature, speed, grade etc) and overlays the data on the footage.
Using the garmin software (Virb Edit) I can merge my videos in to one almost instantly and edit, but when I go to export, it just takes forever, at 1080p 60fps (55 min video) it got to 40% after about 3 and a half hours then rebooted itself. It took 3 hours to do 720p 30fps but obviously the quality is poor.

PC Specs are:
AMD A10-7700K, Radeon R7, 10 compute cores 4C+6G, 3400 Mhz.
16gb RAM,
SSD
Built in graphics.

I've done a bit of googling, some sites say a decent graphics card will make a world of difference, others say I need an Intel i7 to do it properly.
Obviously a graphics card is a much cheaper option so just wondering what I can do to be able to render in a decent time.
Thanks,
Grant
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PostPosted: 21:02 - 29 Aug 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

CUDA on Nvidia cards is ok, but is only used when transcoding to certain formats.

The more cores you have on a CPU the better, the load is shared across them and the job is finished quicker.

I know my 1st gen i7 transcodes alot faster than any of my graphic cards.
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PostPosted: 21:30 - 29 Aug 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rendering large amounts of video data is going to munch RAM power mostly. When rendering 4K videos I see my RAM usage up at 90% when it's rendering.

It's usually the whole package that helps. Having a Quad/Hex core CPU with multi threading is going to really help, as is a solid state HDD, loads of RAM and a good GPU.

The weakest will bottle neck the rest, i.e. having a great CPU & GPU but 3GB RAM is going to hinder the rendering time massively.

Cheapest option fortunately is chucking more RAM in.
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grant965
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PostPosted: 21:32 - 29 Aug 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the replies,
When I go on task manager when it is exporting, the CPU is 100% but ram is only at 20-25%.
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Jayy
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PostPosted: 21:35 - 29 Aug 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

grant965 wrote:
Thanks for the replies,
When I go on task manager when it is exporting, the CPU is 100% but ram is only at 20-25%.


Edit*

I didn't see your specs up there, how bizzare! You have 16GB of RAM.
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PostPosted: 22:29 - 29 Aug 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

More CPU cores is about as much improvement as you'll get. Gaming cards are pretty ineffective for rendering, and I use a 6GB GTX 980Ti.

Installing a workstation card will reduce rendering times significantly though.
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PostPosted: 01:15 - 30 Aug 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Same here, 980ti and doesn't get used much when rendering. RAM gets spanked and CPU stays pretty low in comparison.

I have an i7 though, the hyper threading is what really comes in to play with stuff like this. 4 cores with another 4 "hyper threaded" cores.

This is where the question, "Do I need an i5 or i7 for gaming?" comes in to play. The difference between the two for gaming is nothing but when it comes to things like rendering video, working in 3D, etc etc, the i7 comes in to full play over the i5.
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PostPosted: 06:05 - 30 Aug 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

That PC is similar to mine which can render 4K in Adobe Premier faster than you're doing 1080p.
The more stuff you change when editing the longer it takes - however I'd be suspicious the software is not working as well as some alternatives.
See how you get on with (free) gopro studio or even Moviemaker.
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grant965
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PostPosted: 18:59 - 30 Aug 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks for the replies all, tried it again with gopro studio, hitlm express and dashaware, all just as slow.
Thinking the only option is to upgrade motherboard and CPU or get an expensive laptop.

How much of an improvement would this be:
https://www.scan.co.uk/products/intel-core-i7-4790k-quad-core-40ghz-processor-with-unlocked-core-multiplier-plus-asus-z97-p-atx-moth

Computer is DDR3 so hoping its a straight swap. Would also like it to be future proof (process 4k) if possible?
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PostPosted: 19:40 - 30 Aug 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

grant965 wrote:
Computer is DDR3 so hoping its a straight swap. Would also like it to be future proof (process 4k) if possible?


4790k is better, will perform better for rendering.

Personally though if its for rendering primarily I'd get a 5820k and overclock it.

For ram get some Kingston HyperX Savage ddr3s, quad channel 4gb relatively low latency = 16gb of fast ram which is all you'll need for FHD rendering.

I can't comment on 4k rendering cause I've never done it but I imagine it takes 4 times as long as full HD, just as a guess though so don't quote me on it.
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grant965
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PostPosted: 20:05 - 30 Aug 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Meef wrote:
grant965 wrote:
Computer is DDR3 so hoping its a straight swap. Would also like it to be future proof (process 4k) if possible?


4790k is better, will perform better for rendering.

Personally though if its for rendering primarily I'd get a 5820k and overclock it.

For ram get some Kingston HyperX Savage ddr3s, quad channel 4gb relatively low latency = 16gb of fast ram which is all you'll need for FHD rendering.

I can't comment on 4k rendering cause I've never done it but I imagine it takes 4 times as long as full HD, just as a guess though so don't quote me on it.

Problem is the 5820k would be not far of twice as much as the 4790k, at scan the 5820k is £360 + cost of a new motherboard and DDR4 ram.
Whereas the 4790k is £330 with a board, and I guess I can re-use my DDR3 ram currently in the system?
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PostPosted: 10:30 - 31 Aug 2016    Post subject: Re: Exporting 1080p footage Reply with quote

grant965 wrote:


PC Specs are:
AMD A10-7700K, Radeon R7, 10 compute cores 4C+6G, 3400 Mhz.
16gb RAM,
SSD
Built in graphics.



Interesting as I was considering an almost identical spec as my Laptop is so slow at processing 1080p 60fps footage. Guess I'll have to reconsider the spec, but then it gets quite pricey Sad
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PostPosted: 21:02 - 31 Aug 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

That 5820K sounds expensive.

Trawling through my e-mails, I paid less than that 12 months ago.

I'd consider selling off the parts if you actually want it for the 307 I paid.

Massive overkill for my use case.

WRT reboots: sounds like a cooling problem, or just shit software.
Video encoding is work that does just take a long bloody time. You might get it down to 'a few hours' but it'll never be done while you wait.

Good book and a cup of tea. Much cheaper.
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