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PostPosted: 07:50 - 03 Sep 2016    Post subject: Festival Debris Reply with quote

Is this normal at these events now?
When I went to big bike rallies people might leave stuff in a binbag - often they put that in a skip themselves.
At a smaller one I helped run, we litter-picked round the site after and couldn't find even one bag of overlooked rubbish.
Mostly the odd bag had blown into a hedge.

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PostPosted: 07:59 - 03 Sep 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are you serious man? Snowflakes don't clear up after themselves. Tut Tut Someone else will do it...
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PostPosted: 09:08 - 03 Sep 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bet they must find SO much weed and pills.

They should charge a deposit to everyone who comes in with a tent, refundable when they leave with one.
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PostPosted: 09:57 - 03 Sep 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah that's pretty standard, they're all teenagers off their faces in a muddy field for 4/5 days, the last thing they care about is taking the stuff mummy and daddy bought them home again. Laughing

Fair pickings for these charities though, so I don't really have an issue with it.
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PostPosted: 10:00 - 03 Sep 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's pretty much normal at big festivals.

Everyone has spent £200+ on a weekend ticket and most likely £5+ per burger so leaving that £15 shitty tent behind isn't a big deal.

(I've only only left a tent behind at a festival.)
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PostPosted: 10:06 - 03 Sep 2016    Post subject: Re: Festival Debris Reply with quote

Reading festival has always been like that.

They don't whine about it like Glastonbury and other festivals trying to push a political point do.

All the big festivals employ litter pickers - even if the big stuff was taken, they would still have to scour the fields for any little bits.

So you've got people already spending a considerable amount of time doing it, so it doesn't add much to clear up the big stuff I would guess.

I tried to get a job after Glastonbury litter picking a few years ago - massive competition and I made the mistake of leaving the site having told it'd be fine. Sadly that wasn't the case and only those who had contacts got special treatment to get back in.

When you're asking people to pay £75+ a day for the ticket, then a fiver for a rat-burger, is there any surprise the same people are quite happy to leave a £10 tent shared between two? Even a more expensive tent shared between a few and you're talking the cost of a pint a night at an onsite bar.

If the stuff is going to be thrown away when they get home anyway, makes more sense to do it there, than waste fuel etc taking it home.

Further, the festival organisations pays for the rubbish stuff.

It gets more people jobs for longer.

Kinda like using the self service checkouts, or going to one with a till.
Sure, you can do it yourself; your food may be slightly cheaper if everyone did it. Or Tescos might make a bit more profit. Probably better for the country as a whole to use the manned checkouts however Smile.
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PostPosted: 10:22 - 03 Sep 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Having sent my daughter off to her first festival with a brand new tent and sleeping bag, I was annoyed that neither made it home. She and her mates seem to view such things as disposable regardless of who paid for them.

I also think part of the problem is that they haven't got the gumption to know how to take a tent down and repack it.

When Sid & I went to the TT we scavenged a load of abandoned good new tents (and sundry other gear) people had left behind presumably because it was too much hassle to strap them to their bikes for the journey home. However at least they had an excuse and left the site otherwise tidy, rubbish bagged etc.
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PostPosted: 10:36 - 03 Sep 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh yes; should note that we got enough good nick stuff to pretty much kit out a friend and her kids for a festival with everything they needed and a load of other stuff, including unopened food for the drive home (which I was very pleased with when my prop shaft broke on said journey home - though perhaps all the extra weight didn't help Smile.
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PostPosted: 14:07 - 03 Sep 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

asked earlier on their page


if anyone has a small square piece of canvas with a hook on each corner can they let me know

I have a dome tent with no roof as mine disappeared when I lent my tent out to somone

we get idiots at our track leave nearly as much mess after a day let alone four
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PostPosted: 18:35 - 03 Sep 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

stinkwheel wrote:
They should charge a deposit to everyone who comes in with a tent, refundable when they leave with one.

The principle is sound, but I'd:

Bump the ticket price for everyone, then give discount vouchers for next year's event to those to take tent(s) away with them.
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PostPosted: 18:39 - 03 Sep 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:
stinkwheel wrote:
They should charge a deposit to everyone who comes in with a tent, refundable when they leave with one.

The principle is sound, but I'd:

Bump the ticket price for everyone, then give discount vouchers for next year's event to those to take tent(s) away with them.


Good idea, but knowing festivals, what about the people who already lost out when someone stole or burned their tent? punish them twice?
Who taught you ethics? an insurance Company or G-Man? Razz

Seriously though, the ticket prices last I checked were insane anyway, aren't they already encompassing it silently? they would be fools if they aren't.
Same as supermarkets encompass theft and damages in their pricing structure, just business.
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PostPosted: 19:45 - 03 Sep 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Commuter_Tim wrote:
Good idea, but knowing festivals, what about the people who already lost out when someone stole or burned their tent?

Then remove someone else's abandoned tent, or tents.

At the point where there are no abandoned tents left for them to remove, the problem is solved.

You get the purpose of rewarding them via a discount voucher scheme, yes?
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PostPosted: 19:54 - 03 Sep 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's not worth it for the organisers to pay people to take their own tent home with them. Laughing
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PostPosted: 19:56 - 03 Sep 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've tried packing a tent while pissed and it wasn't a pleasant experience no wonder they're all left behind! Shocked
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PostPosted: 20:05 - 03 Sep 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Forcing people to take a tent with them will only encourage fly-tipping chaos in the immediate surrounding areas.

Probably best they are just all left in 1 big field.
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PostPosted: 20:11 - 03 Sep 2016    Post subject: Festivals Reply with quote

My son took our 4 man tent to a festival recently for him and a mate to use little fucker couldn't be arsed to pack it up so he left it there Evil or Very Mad needless to say we haven't been camping this year, he's going to one on the Isle of Wight next week my two man tent is safely hidden away from the little barsteward Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 20:15 - 03 Sep 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Setup an eBay shop for used Tents Thinking
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PostPosted: 20:22 - 03 Sep 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rogue_Shadow wrote:
Setup an eBay shop for used Tents Thinking


If people like tents that smell of piss, shit and shame then you might be onto a winner Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 20:32 - 03 Sep 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 20:41 - 03 Sep 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:
Commuter_Tim wrote:
Good idea, but knowing festivals, what about the people who already lost out when someone stole or burned their tent?

Then remove someone else's abandoned tent, or tents.


Brain Fail, can't believe I didn't think of that. (That's a lie, I can believe it easily) Laughing
I do rarely go on BCF sober though. (I find sobriety doesn't allow for the fullest BCF experience)

As someone who likes to camp all I can think of from that video above is all those valuable tent pegs (those things just disappear into Narnia)

EDIT: Hah, with my poor wording above I didn't actually intend to refer to people burning their own tent...
Although that does happen equally as much as them burning others.
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PostPosted: 20:49 - 03 Sep 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Plenty of festivals do have cup refunds or, bonuses for handing them in.

One year I did collect a load at Sonisphere. Then I saw the queue to redeem and gave them to someone else in the queue.
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PostPosted: 21:09 - 03 Sep 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

binge wrote:
Forcing people to take a tent with them will only encourage fly-tipping chaos in the immediate surrounding areas.

fuk u n ur reealty Mad
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PostPosted: 07:24 - 04 Sep 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Big events like Leeds fest aren't exactly for niche crowds who care about the community they form.

It's basically the 'live event' version of trash TV, McDonalds, or whatever other spoon-fed thing for the masses. It serves one purpose: to make as much money as possible from the punters.

So, a bit like how you don't really watch Strictly Come Dancing with much enthusiasm, or how nobody really cares if someone lobs a gherkin onto the window inside mcdonalds... nobody really cares about dumping all their stuff after a big mainstream "OMG are you going to this" festival.

Might also be a 'large numbers' thing. People tend to leave their morals behind when there's enough of a crowd to drown out any sense of social responsibility.
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PostPosted: 08:12 - 04 Sep 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Reading/Leeds are one of the few that has kept going.
Plenty of festivals have gone bust or had to shut up shop.

So often it's more a case of 'making enough money not to die'.
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PostPosted: 13:35 - 05 Sep 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

The tents aren't the problem. I know Download will donate any leftover tents to charity and they're not a problem to collect.

It's the general detritus that's the issue. How many man hours does it take to clear up the empty beer cans and pot noodles that 200,000 people have consumed in a week?
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