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TheSmiler
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PostPosted: 12:52 - 13 Sep 2016    Post subject: Mortgage Advice. Reply with quote

Hi there, just wondering if anyone on here can give me any advice. Basically I'm considering getting a mortgage next year and moving over to Newport in Wales. Where I'd be looking at about 90-130k; bottom estimate being a 2 bed flat with garage top estimate looking at a semi detached house with a garden big enough for a garage (most probably needs a bit of work but liveable).

In my current job I'm earning a stable 25k a year more with overtime which is always available. Now I've worked out within 10-12 months doing overtime I can save up about 10-14k for the deposit. This would be my first house so obviously first time mortgage.

Now I'm considering looking at a house and renting out a room to pay for bills and then use wage to pay off the mortgage earlier if that is possible Question

I was just wondering if anyone on here can give me any idea if this would be feasible or realistic; I've got no commitments and the only main bill (apart from household bills that don't come into it) is a mobile phone contract which could be cancelled early with a big fee.

Example of two properties .

2 Bed Flat with garage

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PostPosted: 13:03 - 13 Sep 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://www.nationwide.co.uk/products/mortgages/our-mortgages/mortgage-calculators/mortgage-affordability-calculator

(Don't necessarily have one from them, but the calculator will give you an idea of what you can have)

But do this NOW:
https://www.moneysavingexpert.com/savings/help-to-buy-ISA
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PostPosted: 13:31 - 13 Sep 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ever had a credit card? if not, get one.

Use it only for some normal purchases and pay it off each month. it is important to have a credit rating - using credit is the only way to obtain a credit rating.

This is an important step - it may sound counter-intuitive but its a good idea.

Ensure you have plenty of savings to cover legal, moving and stamp duty (if payable) costs.

Ensure you have an agreement in principal from your mortgage provider before hitting up estate agents etc (it's the only way you will be taken seriously).

Use a mortgage broker - these guys have ways of making sure that things go through mortgage wise.. banks can randomly decide they don't want to lend... brokers only put you forward for mortgages that they think you will get accepted with.

I would buy a house that may be out of date decor etc wise but livable over a place that actually needs work. Home improvements are expensive and on one salary will often be unaffordable for a long time. When something absolutely /has/ to be done this is when you can get in trouble. I am not talking about a new bathroom suite that is more contemporary because your 70's avacado suite offends your sense of style. I mean leaking roof causing lots of extra untold damage. Tins of paint and rollers are cheap if that's your thing and are happy with the level of finish you can put on a place to 'redecorate'

Having a room rented out will really help you but don't budget that additional income in and certainly don't tell anybody about it during the application process. Just do it when the time is right to ease the pressure a bit.

mostly, it's a stressful process... all this goes away once you complete and you have your new home.
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PostPosted: 13:54 - 13 Sep 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can rent a room out for up to £7500 per year tax free.

https://www.gov.uk/rent-room-in-your-home/becoming-a-resident-landlord

As said, don't budget for this. Get a mortgage that is well within your current means, interest rates are at an all time low just now, they can't really go any lower.

Big deposits = prime lending = best deals.

FWIW, I don't like the look of the flat-topped dormer windows on that house. They look like trouble to me.

If you're buying in an estate, have a look along the row and see what other similar ones have had replaced/repaired. Also check the local council planning to see what building warrants/planning have been issued for modifications/repairs to nearby houses and have a quick peak at the geographic crime stats.
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PostPosted: 13:58 - 13 Sep 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

First one is an old peoples complex at the top end Newport.

Second one your bike will be gone and burnt out quicker than a crisp packet.

There's a reason they're cheap, research your area well
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PostPosted: 14:52 - 13 Sep 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Banks will only loan you 4x your annual salary, so you'd better hope you can find a non-sh*thole for £114k.
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PostPosted: 17:40 - 13 Sep 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Also consider some of the government schemes like we discussed Sam.
My plan is the part rent, part buy scheme next year.

You can buy shares and have a much more affordable mortgage and buy more as you go along and, as you're "buying" from a housing association, you have almost a guaranteed buyer when you come to sell.

I intend to do it this way as I am buying on my own and you can get a bit more for your money to start with.

Worth looking into anyway Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 17:46 - 13 Sep 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

petalbriefs wrote:

My plan is the part rent, part buy scheme next year.

Be extremely careful, even in London (with stupid rising property prices) its a bad idea. The property's are overpriced to start with, so you can find yourself unable to get a further mortgage on the % you don't own. Then have a look at the resales, they're a fraction of what you would expect.

People I know who have gone into shared ownership have regretted it.
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PostPosted: 18:03 - 13 Sep 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cheers for the replies I'm on my phone so can't really quote at the moment. Well I can but it's majorly awkward. I've applied for a credit card and should be getting it next week I got accepted.

This was just wondering if it was feasible I've tried several calculators and some say that with a bit extra 14k deposit I could get 120k mortgage. I don't mind paying 6-700 on mortgage if it gets me what I'm after.

Regarding the areas pits I know I've got to look into the area more I don't really know newport at all. Or the surrounding areas for that matter. Anywhere you would recommend possibly looking ato?

I don't mind going somewhere quiet with old people. Doesn't bother me that much. I know I can't get the best possible area but owning in the long term has got to be better than renting. Even with a not too good area.
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PostPosted: 18:11 - 13 Sep 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wouldn't advise getting in to these part rent/part buy schemes myself. My wife had one when we met. The house was overpriced to start, the rental portion kept going up to the point where it wasn't any cheaper than buying the other portion and mortgaging the lot, as it was new-estate based (as all these things are) she had to pay a community charge and a ground charge for the parking areas.

We were restricted on who we could sell it to as it had to be offered on the market for X amount of weeks (26 I think) for people on lower incomes to have a chance first, and when we finally did sell we got charged a fair amount more by the solicitor as they had to send paperwork to the housing association and the buyers.

There was no letting or subletting allowed either, with regular snooping by the housing association reps.

We got shot of that place as soon as we could.
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PostPosted: 19:28 - 13 Sep 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shared ownership must be avoided, it's a total con really. Infact the whole new build thing is best avoided.

To be honest, worry about it in steps.

Step 1, saving and credit rating.

Concentrate your attention on this.

Once you actually have money behind you. Begin to worry about the next thing. Mortgage.
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PostPosted: 19:49 - 13 Sep 2016    Post subject: Re: Mortgage Advice. Reply with quote

TheSmiler wrote:
I've got no commitments and the only main bill (apart from household bills that don't come into it) is a mobile phone contract which could be cancelled early with a big fee.


Mobile phone is a regular payment which will appear on credit reference reports and as such will be a benefit as far as getting credit (assuming you pay it on time).

All the best

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PostPosted: 20:06 - 13 Sep 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would add another 5-10K on top of the mortgage for contingencies and as savings in the event of you losing your job.

If not beforehand, then plan to get it together not long after. You don't want to have to sell the house immediately and lose the deposit if you get into trouble.
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PostPosted: 21:01 - 13 Sep 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't forget banks will also now assess your credibility Alot more. Speak to a mortgage broker would be my advice, trying seeing an adviser at a bank, they'll be honest with u
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PostPosted: 21:58 - 13 Sep 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Also remember as a First Time Buyer, you'll be bummed to oblivion on your "introductory" APR. Ensure you lock this in for the minimum time only, say 2 years, after which you'll be paying a much lower interest rate.

On the subject on interest rates, be clear...

They're going nowhere. Not this year. Not next. Not for 3 years at least. Yes, you'll get a quarter here, or a half there, but not the 12 - 15% level of the 80's.

Until oil rises and the US, Europe, the UK, Japan and China get their economies in gear, at the same time, interest rates are going nowhere. Also remember that commodities, in all forms, are on their ar$e at the moment, which is a true barometer of the worlds future financial "expectations". That'll take at least 5 years at least to ramp up, incidentally. Its cyclical.

As such, get your 2 year FTB mortgage out of the way, then re-negotiate your APR over the next 2,3 or 4 years.

Deposit is key in your situation. 10% minimum. If you haven't got that, you're not going anywhere.
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PostPosted: 09:08 - 14 Sep 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

petalbriefs wrote:
Also consider some of the government schemes like we discussed Sam.
My plan is the part rent, part buy scheme next year.

You can buy shares and have a much more affordable mortgage and buy more as you go along and, as you're "buying" from a housing association, you have almost a guaranteed buyer when you come to sell.

I intend to do it this way as I am buying on my own and you can get a bit more for your money to start with.

Worth looking into anyway Thumbs Up


Careful with this. My first home was an affordable home - I owned 100% of the house, but it was bought at 70% of market value, and as such had to be sold at 70% of current market value.

We recently sold it and it was an absolute fuck on to sell. Long story which I wont go into, but make sure you check all caveats carefully.

For example, on the scheme I had, you couldn't (legally) sub-let a room, let out the house or run a business from home.

It was great for getting me on the property ladder, and made the process of getting a mortgage for the 'proper' property I've just bought easier. There's loads more schemes available now than when I bought, but like I say make sure you check it out before you dive in Smile
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PostPosted: 10:14 - 14 Sep 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't buy a flat, buy a house with a freehold. Flats almost always have a lease which will require regular ground rent and maintenance payments. You'll need to factor in at least 80 sheets into your monthly budget. You'll never truly own the property as the freeholder you pay ground rent to will have the final say on any major changes you want to make. They'll usually employ an agency to collect the ground rent who will try and stitch you up at every turn. Then at some point you'll need to renew the lease which can be costly. The longer you leave it with less years to run, the costlier it is. Nobody will want to buy a property with a short-term left to run on the lease and if they do, they'll be wanting a hefty discount due to the short time left on the lease. In a nutshell - its a big ballache.
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PostPosted: 10:23 - 14 Sep 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Look at mortgage features too.

My one lets me overpay up to 10% of the total each year.

If I've overpaid in any calendar year, that counts totards the total for that year if I find I need to underpay another month.

So say I had spare cash and overpaid a couple of months by 50%, I'd be able to pay nothing at all one month without penalty.

I don't bother with savings at all (other than keeping a "cushion" of a ew thousand for if something goes wrong with the house like the roof needing fixing) and pile as much money into my mortgage as possible. Because compound interest.
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PostPosted: 11:30 - 14 Sep 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Motorhate wrote:
Don't buy a flat, buy a house with a freehold. Flats almost always have a lease which will require regular ground rent and maintenance payments. You'll need to factor in at least 80 sheets into your monthly budget. You'll never truly own the property as the freeholder you pay ground rent to will have the final say on any major changes you want to make. They'll usually employ an agency to collect the ground rent who will try and stitch you up at every turn. Then at some point you'll need to renew the lease which can be costly. The longer you leave it with less years to run, the costlier it is. Nobody will want to buy a property with a short-term left to run on the lease and if they do, they'll be wanting a hefty discount due to the short time left on the lease. In a nutshell - its a big ballache.

I think with a short lease you can't get a mortgage anyway, I believe something like <50 years left.
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PostPosted: 11:54 - 14 Sep 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

M.C wrote:
I think with a short lease you can't get a mortgage anyway, I believe something like <50 years left.


Yeah I did hear something like that however, a mate of mine bought a place with a short lease and was getting stung to the tune of 25 large to renew it. Not sure how it slipped through the net - possibly a cockup by the solicitors. Must ask him what became of that one.
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PostPosted: 12:17 - 14 Sep 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

stinkwheel wrote:
pile as much money into my mortgage as possible. Because compound interest.


This, so much this.

being able to overpay saves you THOUSANDS in the long term.

With regards to leaseholds, I only purchased my flat in December last year but it as a 999 year lease and peppercorn ground rent and we have a share in the freehold.

Maintenance isn't too bad, but to be fair - I have it quite good for a flat.

Next move will be to a freehold house really as before mentioned the managing agents are there to try and charge you every time you open a window (if they could get away with it).

In an area where property was cheap enough to buy a house then i would always go that way. problem with this area is that the flats are £220/£230K and Houses are much more.
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PostPosted: 13:09 - 14 Sep 2016    Post subject: Re: Mortgage Advice. Reply with quote

TheSmiler wrote:
In my current job I'm earning a stable 25k a year more with overtime which is always available


Be a bit more specific - that £25k, does it include your overtime or not?

If that is your basic salary then expect to be offered somewhere in the region of £80k depending on your credit score. If you only just got a credit card then it will be very low so you won't get anywhere near 4 x salary.

If that is what you earn including the overtime then start looking at underpasses with semi-detached cardboard boxes. Mortgage lenders are very unwilling to take overtime into consideration nowadays, even if it is guaranteed and that takes a letter from you employer which I doubt you would get.

We just applied for another mortgage for moving house and it's stricter than ever. They literally wanted every single one of our outgoing expenses which they checked against past bank statements.

https://www.moneysavingexpert.com/mortgages/how-much-mortgage-borrowing

Use that, it's quick and simple.
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PostPosted: 15:25 - 14 Sep 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have the number of a very good mortgage advisor who got mine all sorted out if you want.
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PostPosted: 15:36 - 14 Sep 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

dodsi wrote:
(stress) ... all this goes away once you complete and you have your new home.


Yeah right....! Laughing
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PostPosted: 15:45 - 14 Sep 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wouldn't worry overly about repaying early unless you think the rates are likely to go through the roof.

3% is basically free money. Anything you think you can do that has a higher rate of return than that is a better use. I'm not just talking about shares here - it could be something like spending a few hundred quid on a course that gets you a pay rise, or taking a few months off work to recharge (securing the future after that and avoiding illness or whatever).

Or putting down a deposit on a second place. I'll be in hiding now for a bit to avoid Hetzer's guillotine squad.
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