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Derivative
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PostPosted: 23:31 - 18 Sep 2016    Post subject: Whatever you do, don't. Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 00:33 - 19 Sep 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Using a GTX960 for bitcoin?

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PostPosted: 00:40 - 19 Sep 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ste wrote:
Using a GTX960 for bitcoin?

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No, as a cheese toaster.

I use my microwave for Bitcoin.


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PostPosted: 00:45 - 19 Sep 2016    Post subject: Re: Monster desktop machine for sale - server/gaming/develop Reply with quote

Derivative wrote:
Recent circumstances leave me with less time and need for the beast. It also takes up a fair amount of room in the flat.

System spec is as follows:

i7-5820K (6 core Haswell-E)
MSI X99a SLI PLUS motherboard
64GB of Corsair Vengeance DDR4 (8x8GB sticks)
Main GPU: GTX960 2GB
Alternate GPU: cheap G210

Storage: 7.2TB in total, all SATA
WD Red 6TB
WD Blue 1TB
Crucial BX100 250GB SSD

Fractal Design Define R5 Black Pearl case
Be Quiet Pure Power L8 530W PSU
Arctic Freezer i30 CPU cooler (keeps the CPU cool with the 140W TDP)

2x AOC i2369VM 23" HDMI/DisplayPort 1080p monitors
Duronic DM352 dual monitor stand (clamps onto a standard desk, swivels etc).

Mechanical keyboard, cheap-ish Anker wireless mouse.

I have billions of cables kicking around (HDMI/DP/VGA/DVI/kettle leads/etc etc), no worries there.

Basically the only part of the machine that isn't near top-end is the GPU. That's all you'd need to replace for 4K. 1080p is spot on and enough for me. It plays everything I've thrown at it on high settings, but I used it predominantly for software dev (running many VMs simultaneously, big in-RAM data sets, Bitcoin, etc).

OS is your prerogative, I can stick W7 or linux distro of choice on there if that helps.

New you're looking at 1600 based on my research.
Willing to sell the lot for 1400 ono, delivery and installation included within a reasonable distance of London.

Parts will be sold seperately if there's no interest, keep an eye out if you're after anything. It's all in top condition, only used on a wooden floor and rarely.


What are you basing the £1600 quid "new" value on?

back in June, that rig could be bought for under £1500 brand spankers.
Scroll to the bottom and cheap the price history.
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/jKLMVY

IMO, a used rig of that spec would be worth a grand at most.
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PostPosted: 00:49 - 19 Sep 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Ste wrote:
Using a GTX960 for bitcoin?

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Nah, GPU was for gaming and to get 5 outputs. It also works for QEMU passthrough (which the cheap G210 didn't).

I don't mine Bitcoin. It's been ASIC or go home for what, three, four years now? Razz

So why mention bitcoin in the list of things you use it for?
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PostPosted: 00:52 - 19 Sep 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

CaNsA wrote:
What are you basing the £1600 quid "new" value on?


1600 is based on me looking at a 10 year old Ford Mondeo on the internet and deciding I want it.

The computer doesn't have wheels and I want to vroom.

Ste wrote:
So why mention bitcoin in the list of things you use it for?


As stated in my other post, I confused my microwave and toaster. The toaster is used for bitcoin and the microwave for toast. It doesn't actually work. Sorry.


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PostPosted: 00:54 - 19 Sep 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

By 5 outputs are you meaning connecting it to five monitors?
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PostPosted: 00:57 - 19 Sep 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ste wrote:
By 5 outputs are you meaning connecting it to five monitors?


No, I mean connecting it to five different computers. Some sources say you can only actually get 4 out of the GTX960, I could never figure out if it was model dependent.

I suspect that if you were to buy another GPU, the two would be sufficient as a standalone computer and you could remove the rest of the machine.


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PostPosted: 01:03 - 19 Sep 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

You'd need more than just a second GPU if you want to run a big multi monitor array. Wink
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PostPosted: 09:08 - 20 Sep 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

'Monster' with a *60 series GeForce Laughing
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PostPosted: 10:10 - 20 Sep 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'll stick to the PC I just built for £180 thanks Razz
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PostPosted: 12:48 - 20 Sep 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Raspberry Pi can not do all that, much cheaper...
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PostPosted: 12:50 - 20 Sep 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

OP needs to be less quiet. Crying or Very sad
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PostPosted: 13:51 - 20 Sep 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ste wrote:
OP needs to be less quiet. Crying or Very sad


Sorry, it took me multiple decades to remove the GPU so that I could sell it seperately. I am back now but I don't think we are still using PCIE.


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PostPosted: 14:11 - 20 Sep 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd be interested in it if the price was more realistic. Thumbs Up

You should get quite a bit more selling it in parts than you will selling it as a complete PC and as such I don't think you'll be willing to sell it at a realistic price for what it's worth as a complete PC.
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PostPosted: 14:16 - 20 Sep 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Derivative wrote:
7TB of storage


cute.

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PostPosted: 14:16 - 20 Sep 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ste wrote:
You should get quite a bit more selling it in parts than you will selling it as a complete PC and as such I don't think you'll be willing to sell it at a realistic price for what it's worth as a complete PC.


I suppose you're right. Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like? I don't think I'd be willing.

20% off, perhaps.


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PostPosted: 14:31 - 20 Sep 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

20% off new? You're having a laugh, right?

Do bear in mind that selling on eBay will cost you 10% in ebay fees and 3.4% in Paypal fees. Stuff sells very quickly and easily on BCF if it's well priced and honestly described. But you're overselling it and anyone who's actually interested in buying will know that and so will be waiting until you've had to reduce the price.
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PostPosted: 14:43 - 20 Sep 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ste wrote:
20% off new? You're having a laugh, right?

Do bear in mind that selling on eBay will cost you 10% in ebay fees and 3.4% in Paypal fees. Stuff sells very quickly and easily on BCF if it's well priced and honestly described. But you're overselling it and anyone who's actually interested in buying will know that and so will be waiting until you've had to reduce the price.


I don't know what came over me, I thought I was selling a toaster, but there were crumbs in it. Please forgive me, I didn't know.


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PostPosted: 14:54 - 20 Sep 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Derivative wrote:
If you don't then you are better off with M.C.'s NUC, or the laptop I am writing this message from.

WTF's a NUC *googles*... no Laughing

Pro tip, used electronics lose a lot more than 15%, if I was in the market to spend £1600 on a PC a £200 discount for a used (probably all out of warranty) system wouldn't tempt me at all.

Good luck selling it tho Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 15:23 - 20 Sep 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

M.C. wrote:
Pro tip, used electronics lose a lot more than 15%


It depends. I used to resell light bulbs after they had broken. Sometimes I could sell them for full retail, but only if I sold them to myself under a different name.


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PostPosted: 15:41 - 20 Sep 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

99p no reserve on eBay, job done. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 15:47 - 20 Sep 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Derivative wrote:
Cheers.

WRT the 20% thing it's component based, use a bit of common sense.

I've seen used CPU's for ~5% off retail price and personally I'd buy them. As far as I'm concerned that's a free tenner. I've never had a CPU die.

I don't expect the HDD to go for anywhere near retail - I might end up just keeping it and buying a caddy.

Keyboard similarly, I might just keep it as a spare.

To be frank the reason I didn't just stick it on eBay/gumtree/whatever initially is because I'll have to accurately price each item rather than taking offers.

Then again I've probably spent more time on this thread replying to you plonkers than it would have taken to just put the auctions up. Laughing

That's like selling a bike based on how much you can break it for Thinking CPU's hold their value (and no £10 off wouldn't tempt me in the slightest), GPU's for example don't.

You came here to flog your system and got upset when everyone said it was overpriced. Go list it on gumtree and wait for all the low offers/swap for a staffie and broken moped offers. You'll be wanting us plonkers back Wink
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PostPosted: 15:57 - 20 Sep 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

The RAM and the CPU will go for good money.

The PSU, the case and the motherboard will sell easily but not for particularly amazing prices.

Based on your reactions in this thread, you'll be offended by the prices the rest of it will go for.

List on gumtree and you'll be really offended. Laughing Laughing

Local facebook groups are good because you can sell for a lower price than you can on eBay but still end up with more in your pocket than you would after eBay & Paypal fees plus people like seeing stuff for themselves before handing any money over which makes for a very straight forward sale.


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PostPosted: 15:57 - 20 Sep 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have decided to wear it as a t-shirt for fancy dress outings instead.

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