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 Posted: 16:25 - 19 Sep 2016 Post subject: Re: New York bombings |
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I'm not sure it is strange.
IMO all Liberal left wing politicians generally deny any link between Islam and Islamic terrorism.
Right wing politicians will gain in popularity due to their views on stronger immigration controls, such as Trumps, "shut the borders to Muslims until they know what's going on" comment. ____________________ TZR250 2MA road, TZR250 1KT road, TZR250 2MA race, TDR250, YZF-750R Boost colours.
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I guess I was thinking along the lines of it's not like the incumbent government invited over a million refugees like the Germans did. But then I just thought who they're backing (Hilary obviously) and it makes sense.
Its a good job we live in democracies with freedom of the press, or you could misconstrue stuff like this  |
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It's barely even remarkable any more. Like Taqiyya Khan just assplained to the Septics, this is business as usual now. ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
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They got him, and seem to be finally admitting that bombs going off sounds a little like terrorism  |
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It's a recurring topic with the same outcome MC so maybe people are tired of it?
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It's the first terrorist attack/bombing in New York since 9/11, so I thought it was news worthy. What a sad state of affairs if bombs going off becomes normal (obviously it's in Iraq but no one cares ). |
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| Motorhate wrote: | No different to the UK in the 70s, 80s and early 90s when the IRA were up to their old tricks |
Very different.
Feigned indifference was correct then, since we were busily negotiating with a well organised hierarchical mob of murderers with well defined and achievable political objectives.
Now? The objective is death to infidels. Yes, I know, top level caliphatists want to keep the money rolling-rolling-rolling in, but for the street snackbaristas it really is all about the murdering.
How do you appease or negotiate with someone who despises you simply for existing?
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https://metro.co.uk/2016/09/19/thieves-accidentally-defused-second-new-york-bomb-by-trying-to-steal-it-6138665/
A second New York bomb is believed to have been disabled when petty thieves stole the suitcase it was left in.
Manhattan was rocked by an explosion on Saturday which injured 29 people – but police believe another bomb was intended to go off in the busy city.
It failed to detonate after criminals dumped the explosives in a rubbish bag so they could walk off with the suitcase it was left in, local newspaper DNA reported.
It was a case of ‘Leave the bomb, take the bag,’ the newspaper said.
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My point is that there are lots of influencing factors for a wide variety of people. Something that you and me innocently enjoy as a bit of a getaway from real life will inspire some nutjob somewhere to do something stupid, so should we be barred because of our little getaway treat? That road leads to no-one being able to do anything because of the minority of mentals in every society.
I noted earlier what I think should happen to this guy and his ilk. |
There are nutters everywhere, but by shia (sp) co-incidence, the vast majority by a huge margin lately are Muslims.
To still keep rolling out the usual "just another random lone wolf, nothing to do with Islam mentalist" was wearing thin a few months ago, let alone now.
As soon as you hear a news story now of a random bombing or knife attack, machete attack or axe attack, you know full well the culprit will have a Muslim name and originate form North Africa of the Middle East.
At some point, even the most Liberal of lefties are going to have to wise up to this link. ____________________ TZR250 2MA road, TZR250 1KT road, TZR250 2MA race, TDR250, YZF-750R Boost colours.
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| mpd72 wrote: | | Mark_F wrote: | [
My point is that there are lots of influencing factors for a wide variety of people. Something that you and me innocently enjoy as a bit of a getaway from real life will inspire some nutjob somewhere to do something stupid, so should we be barred because of our little getaway treat? That road leads to no-one being able to do anything because of the minority of mentals in every society.
I noted earlier what I think should happen to this guy and his ilk. |
There are nutters everywhere, but by shia (sp) co-incidence, the vast majority by a huge margin lately are Muslims.
To still keep rolling out the usual "just another random lone wolf, nothing to do with Islam mentalist" was wearing thin a few months ago, let alone now.
As soon as you hear a news story now of a random bombing or knife attack, machete attack or axe attack, you know full well the culprit will have a Muslim name and originate form North Africa of the Middle East.
At some point, even the most Liberal of lefties are going to have to wise up to this link. |
You're attributing vague statements to me that I haven't made.
You also repeatedly attempt to insult me, however such attempts merely demonstrate your ignorance.
There are nutters everywhere, in every walk of life, with every concievable interest, every religion, etc. This is nothing new.
There are knife attacks pretty much every day. In the US, there are shootings every day. The majority of them don't make the news.
We have a nutter who took his fairy story too far (as many other nutters have done, not excluding those who follow different fairy stories). At this time, the majority of reported cases have a perpetrator who Muslim, but nutters of other beliefs do similar things the world over.
This isn't a binary issue. |
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| Rogerborg wrote: | | Mark_F wrote: | decisions are somewhat different to opinions (especially opinions on complex issues). |
What good is having a nuanced opinion if it doesn't result in you making a firm decision that creates a better world? |
I have a nuanced opinion that this is not a simple issue, with simple causes, and thus simple solutions. As for me proposing an actual solution, I don't believe I have the experience or time to devote to finding the underlying causes of this type of behaviour, or that there even is one solution that would stop this kind of thing happening altogether (given that similar methods have been used by different, often opposing, groups acting in this country throughout my life).
How do you define a "better world"? One mans heaven is another mans hell, and who am I to force you to accept what I desire? (those that want to impose their perfect world suffer from similar, albeit less extreme, delusions as the mentalists doing this shit)
For the time being, and in this particular instance, the unwashed bacon slicer should suffice IMO. |
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 9 years, 137 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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