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PostPosted: 12:59 - 20 Sep 2016    Post subject: Charity scum, in case anyone had any doubts. Reply with quote

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Neil Kinnock appeared on both Dispatches and Panorama this evening bemoaning the presence of socialists in the Labour Party. Neither programme succeeded in finding anything sinister happening, but they did succeed in playing a great deal of sinister music. This must have been a great boost to the sinister music writing industry, for which we should be grateful. I think they have definitively proved that some people are left wing, and would like to have left wing MPs.

But seeing Kinnock reminded me of another bit of TV I saw today, a heartbreaking advert for Save the Children featuring a dying little baby, unable to ask for help. The advert urged you to give just £2 a month to help save her.

If 11,000 people responded with £2 a month, that would not save the little baby, but it would exactly pay the £264,000 per year salary of Neil Kinnock’s daughter-in-law Helle Thorning-Schmidt, Chief Executive of Save the Children and wife of MP Stephen Kinnock. Indeed if 20,000 people gave £2 per month, that would probably cover Mrs Stephen Kinnock’s salary, her other employment costs and the money paid to Sky for the advert. When you toss in Stephen’s salary and expenses, the Stephen Kinnock household are bringing in just shy of a cool half a million pounds a year from public service and charity work.

The salary of Ms Thorning-Schmidt is approximately twice that of her predecessor, Justin Forsyth, who was on an already unconscionable £140,000. I exposed their massive salaries at the time the Save the Children awarded a “Global Legacy” award to Tony Blair. Indeed to meet the salaries and other employment costs of just the top executives at Save the Children would take 80,000 people paying £2 a month. They would be funding executives with an average salary of over £140,000. For those in work paying the £2 a month, the average UK salary is £26,000 a year, and many retired and unemployed people scrimp to find money to give to try to help the needy.

The use of charities as a massive cash cow for the political classes is a real concern. David Miliband is on over 300,000 for heading the International Rescue Committee. When I listed the Save the Children executives, they included Brendan Cox, on over £100,000. He was the husband of Jo Cox, the murdered Labour MP. Brendan Cox and Justin Forsyth were both advisers to Gordon Brown and both moved to Save the Children when they lost their jobs on Brown losing power, sliding in on 6 figure salaries. Jo Cox was an adviser to Glenys Kinnock and left that job to be an executive at Oxfam before she too worked as a highly paid Save the Children executive.

Brendan Cox left Save the Children due to allegations from several women that he sexually harassed female staff and volunteers. Justin Forsyth left at the same time amid allegations he had not effectively acted to have his friend Cox investigated. This has not stopped Forsyth from now popping up as Deputy Chief Executive of UNICEF. Misery for some is a goldmine for others.

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PostPosted: 13:05 - 20 Sep 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wonder how much the TV ad itself cost to make and for the airtime.
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Save the Children awarded a “Global Legacy” award to Tony Blair.

Shocked

Come again?
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PostPosted: 13:12 - 20 Sep 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ste wrote:
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Save the Children awarded a “Global Legacy” award to Tony Blair.

Shocked

Come again?

Who else has done more to drum up business for them?

Eh, money extorted from earners to pay State salaries, money scammed from pensioners to pay 'Charity' bosses, it's the same faces and much the same methods either way. Corrvpt scvm, the lot of 'em.
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PostPosted: 13:16 - 20 Sep 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

I remember hearing a few years ago that it was around £30k for 30 seconds of time on air.

Then you've got to look at the channel & time slots you want.
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PostPosted: 13:46 - 20 Sep 2016    Post subject: Re: Charity scum, in case anyone had any doubts. Reply with quote

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Neil Kinnock etc etc


No source?
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PostPosted: 13:47 - 20 Sep 2016    Post subject: Re: Charity scum, in case anyone had any doubts. Reply with quote

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No source?

Sauce: https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2016/09/peak-kinnock/
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PostPosted: 13:49 - 20 Sep 2016    Post subject: Re: Charity scum, in case anyone had any doubts. Reply with quote

Lord Percy wrote:


No source?


If you google any part of the quote in the OP you'll find the source: https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2016/09/peak-kinnock/
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PostPosted: 13:58 - 20 Sep 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is basically ingredient #100 of how people end up in the Carlin video situation you posted in the other thread.

The rent is about a billion a second but it needs to be that to pay the mortgage.

The charity boss makes about a billion a microsecond but they'd make 5 times that if they worked in a bank so why not.

The proles can't feed themselves so if you own a home you are rich. (e.g. OMG d union boss haser himself a 1 bedroom flat kill the interloper)

wot

I recommend some good wine, you'll be off to a better place soon enough.
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PostPosted: 14:13 - 20 Sep 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

I recall reading something similar about Barack Obama's wife (Michelle?). Basically some charity/hospital thing was paying her shit loads of money, insisting she had a crucial job and was worth it. When she left they didn't replace her...
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PostPosted: 08:58 - 21 Sep 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

I recently entered in to the dark murky world of the third sector.

It left me even more lost than before, frankly.

There are people doing good things all over the place, and unfortunately a lot of those people feel almost the same way about the big charities.

You can go in to third sector work, and earn a modest wage, even in the UK. 25k+ for basic office work and event planning. But that will be in London, and most secretaries in London get 30k.

They say no one would take the job due to the massive stress, but yeh, keep your office somewhere smaller and hire those willing to do it for less.
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PostPosted: 09:10 - 21 Sep 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Interesting point, as someone who rarely graces the shores of the UK, I have noticed on each visit the staggering number of oily donation hounds lurking in shopping centres hard selling you Oxfam etc.

It is, apparently, a growth industry. And one of the few viable options I was given to earn more than minimum wage in the UK.

Yes, I agree with the spend money to make money philosophy of fund raising, but that whole area makes my skin crawl.
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PostPosted: 09:37 - 21 Sep 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/sep/20/tony-blair-to-close-commercial-enterprises-to-focus-on-charity-work

Looks like there's more profit in not-for-profits.
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PostPosted: 23:29 - 24 Sep 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sun Wukong wrote:
Interesting point, as someone who rarely graces the shores of the UK, I have noticed on each visit the staggering number of oily donation hounds lurking in shopping centres hard selling you Oxfam etc.

It is, apparently, a growth industry. And one of the few viable options I was given to earn more than minimum wage in the UK.

Yes, I agree with the spend money to make money philosophy of fund raising, but that whole area makes my skin crawl.

Chuggers I think they're called (charity muggers). If you sign up through one of them all your money's going on their referral fee. All of these charities act like aggressive companies. Personally I don't trust/bother with them, I'll stick a bit of change in the collection bin but that's it now.
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PostPosted: 07:36 - 25 Sep 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

M.C wrote:

Chuggers I think they're called (charity muggers).


I prefer to call them Chunts, it's more accurate.
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PostPosted: 14:27 - 25 Sep 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's not really much of a surprise is it?

I don't give to charity, the chuggers can all get stuffed as well. I usually have somewhere to be, so don't waste it talking to that lot.
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PostPosted: 19:47 - 25 Sep 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

I do occasionally give to tramps on the street, but I refuse to give a penny to charity scumbags.
At least this way I know my money is just going to be spent on cheap booze (Hell if I was homeless I would want to be perpetually drunk too)
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PostPosted: 20:39 - 25 Sep 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Traditional tramps have necked or shot up what you give them.

Now it's as likely that your money will end up in the pocket of a gangmaster who drives a Merc.

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PostPosted: 20:52 - 25 Sep 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 21:25 - 25 Sep 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

ScaredyCat wrote:
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I'm going to assume their salary expenses are nestled into 'charitable activities costs'.
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PostPosted: 06:05 - 26 Sep 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lord Percy wrote:
ScaredyCat wrote:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/188253/_bcf/mowa/cr.png


I'm going to assume their salary expenses are nestled into 'charitable activities costs'.


Note how their "investments" lost 57 milllion in 2008. They must have had loads invested in Iceland. Shocked
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PostPosted: 12:08 - 26 Sep 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

ScaredyCat wrote:
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What's the too long, didn't understand but I'd quite like to get angry at something conclusion?
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PostPosted: 12:23 - 26 Sep 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

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What's the too long, didn't understand but I'd quite like to get angry at something conclusion?


That in 2014, a third of the income went to Institutions to actually do the curing and caring. The rest spent elsewhere.
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PostPosted: 12:42 - 26 Sep 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

DrSnoosnoo wrote:
M.C wrote:
What's the too long, didn't understand but I'd quite like to get angry at something conclusion?


That in 2014, a third of the income went to Institutions to actually do the curing and caring. The rest spent elsewhere.

Thanks Thumbs Up

Utter utter scumbags *selects brick from pile*
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