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 Posted: 13:19 - 09 Aug 2016 Post subject: Got spark, plug wet, no start... ***UPDATE*** |
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My EXC 250 4T died on me last week (whilst up a bleeding mountain!), after a bit of inspection I tested the coil with a multimeter and it was dead. Anyway, new coil, spark plug cap and spark plug have been fitted. I get a spark, the plug is wet, but the bike wont start. Any ideas? Carb issue causing too much fuel so flooding the bike? My mechanical skills are limited and if possible I don't want to take the bike to my local garage as I've spent enough on this bike this year and when I take it there it's there for ages. I won't attempt dismantling the carb myself as the way my luck goes I'll catastrophically fuck something up!
Thought it was worth asking here first to see if I can avoid the garage!  ____________________ I want your clothes, your boots and your motorcycle.
Suzuki GP125 Suzuki GSX600F Suzuki SV650S KTM EXC250F SkyTeam Bongo 125
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The plug shouldn't be wet => flooded.
Dry the plug off with a lighter/blowtorch and try again. If it still won't start and comes out wet again, you've got overfuelling issues. ____________________ Honda Varadero 125cc => Suzuki Bandit 650 33bhp => 77bhp =>
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Bit of an update. It's the stator. Best price I can find new is £165, so if anyone knows of a better price or a used one with some kind of warranty then let me know It's a '02 EXC 250 Racing. ____________________ I want your clothes, your boots and your motorcycle.
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Stator makes power for the CDI... ____________________ I want your clothes, your boots and your motorcycle.
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loved your local video's!!
i dont know this bike at all, but you say you have ht and a wet plug.
does the carb etc flood??
how is it with a new clean dry gapped plug??
any hint of firing at all??
checked ht with plug in with a red neon plug cap?? cheap easy and visual check for ht in the real world.
can you post a picture of the genny and rotor.
so fuel in correct amount, ht, but still will not run?
i presume the engine can "breath"?
Is the genny rote flywheel key sheared, would be a relatively early check for me, as its possible and cheap/easy to check.
you have a stobe so can check firing point/ign timing, yes.
actually test rule that one out, as you have ht, but it may be happening at the wrong time. It does happen.
what was the nature of the death??
up in the hills, so some fuel used, fuel problem??
but rule in or rule out the ign timing and strenght of ht, the red neon loight "growing brighter" with increased engine speed.
yes i know the engine wont run, but it can be made to turn, even faster by pushing in gear, or going down all our steep welsh hills eh. ____________________ nuts about bikes |
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| bikenut wrote: | loved your local video's!!
i dont know this bike at all, but you say you have ht and a wet plug.
does the carb etc flood??
how is it with a new clean dry gapped plug??
any hint of firing at all??
checked ht with plug in with a red neon plug cap?? cheap easy and visual check for ht in the real world.
can you post a picture of the genny and rotor.
so fuel in correct amount, ht, but still will not run?
i presume the engine can "breath"?
Is the genny rote flywheel key sheared, would be a relatively early check for me, as its possible and cheap/easy to check.
you have a stobe so can check firing point/ign timing, yes.
actually test rule that one out, as you have ht, but it may be happening at the wrong time. It does happen.
what was the nature of the death??
up in the hills, so some fuel used, fuel problem??
but rule in or rule out the ign timing and strenght of ht, the red neon loight "growing brighter" with increased engine speed.
yes i know the engine wont run, but it can be made to turn, even faster by pushing in gear, or going down all our steep welsh hills eh. |
Cheers dude! This is the moment it died, as you can see, had plenty of hill to push it down to try and bump it!
https://youtu.be/KWXCQSnX-pc ____________________ I want your clothes, your boots and your motorcycle.
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Can't take pics as it's in the garage.
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Finally got bike back, stator got rewound. Got the carb tweaked too, bike runs good now  ____________________ I want your clothes, your boots and your motorcycle.
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