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t121anf
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PostPosted: 09:09 - 25 Sep 2016    Post subject: Any plumbers on here? Reply with quote

Question about radiators.

Should the lockshield be on the flow or return side of the radiator?

Mine all seem to be flow, but this feels wrong to me.
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PostPosted: 09:58 - 25 Sep 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

In what way does it feel wrong?
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PostPosted: 10:05 - 25 Sep 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Radiator valves and modern TRV do not require the water flow to be in a particular direction - you can fit them at any convenient end. It is probably better to have the TRV away from doors, draughts and the likes to avoid the thermostatic part being fooled by "fake" temperatures.
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t121anf
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PostPosted: 10:54 - 25 Sep 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

In my simple mind, if you want to stop something getting in you do so by stopping it before it enters rather than afterwards.

So imo the control value should be on entrance (flow) rather than exit (return/lockshield).

Just seems wrong, but hey ho.

Oh btw if it matters and I can't see that it would, no TRVs here, still on old school ones. One day i'll upgrade them.
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PostPosted: 13:21 - 25 Sep 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 14:31 - 25 Sep 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

t121anf wrote:
In my simple mind, if you want to stop something getting in you do so by stopping it before it enters rather than afterwards.

So imo the control value should be on entrance (flow) rather than exit (return/lockshield).

Just seems wrong, but hey ho.

Oh btw if it matters and I can't see that it would, no TRVs here, still on old school ones. One day i'll upgrade them.


As said, modern TRVs 'can' be installed up stream or down stream. Possibly react very slightly faster/slower depending on whether on inlet or outlet.
But the principle it to simply control flow.
There can be issues if the radiator is not completely free of air pockets (bled) or if the system isn't balanced properly. Balancing takes a bit of time but no great skill.
You can fit automatic bleeders (about a fiver each https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/like/181609910425?lpid=122&chn=ps&adgroupid=27378760866&rlsatarget=pla-181484322786&adtype=pla&poi=&googleloc=9046948&device=c&campaignid=620865095&crdt=0) to remove any need to bleed (rhyme).

And it's important to ensure the system is spotlessly clean using a cleaner. Add the cleaner and let it work for days, weeks or more depending on how dirty the system is. Drain and Flush with fresh water and add an inhibitor (you can do an easy test for inhibitor- steel nail or paper staple in a glass of water drained from the system. It will rust within a few hours/days if no inhibitor.) and bleed. Balance if required.
I only use Fernox products myself as I know their shit works as described.
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PostPosted: 20:47 - 25 Sep 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

either way, ill always fit to the right because it looks better

thats if its modern... if not its on the flow side (Y)

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PostPosted: 18:38 - 26 Sep 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

You should fit the TRV away from anything that cause a lower temperature (windows, doors ect). Best bet is to put it on the side which is the closest to the centre of the room. Thumbs Up
Oh and don't put one on the radiator that is near your thermostat lol
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PostPosted: 01:38 - 28 Sep 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

And always leave one radiator with no TRV to give your boiler a place to put water when all the TRVs close. Smile
A small single radiator is all it needs.
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