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B0ndy
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PostPosted: 13:20 - 27 Sep 2016    Post subject: Stolen motorbike - should I make a claim? Reply with quote

My bike was stolen yesterday, 5pm broad daylight, three tracksuits ran off with it from outside my workplace.

I've told the Police about it and now need to tell the insurance company, I want to tread carefully to ensure that future insurers don't screw me with massive premiums for making a claim.

I insured the bike (CB400SF) for the value of £1000 when I first took out the policy, after around 15,000+ miles on it I expect it's worth just over half that. Since it's not worth much and I have another bike, should I tell the insurance company about it and make a claim or write it off?

I've been reading up on it this morning and seen that some insurers can accept a claim as a "no fault accident", I've never had to go this before so I'm not sure how that will stand up with future insurers when I take out insurance.
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Ste
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PostPosted: 13:31 - 27 Sep 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

What's the excess on your policy?
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PostPosted: 13:33 - 27 Sep 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stolen yesterday and you're still thinking about what to do?

My first thought is that insurance is going to ask why it's taken so long to phone up and inform them of the situation and second would be how many speeding tickets are you going to get through the post because tiefs have been doing naughty things.
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Ste
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PostPosted: 13:38 - 27 Sep 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

NJD wrote:
how many speeding tickets are you going to get through the post because tiefs have been doing naughty things.

He says that he's told the police about it. Wink

Like every bike's been nicked thread, I'd be quite willing to bet that the bike isn't far away and so could it be worth having a look for before it gets torched.
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PostPosted: 13:42 - 27 Sep 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ste wrote:
What's the excess on your policy?


£500

NJD wrote:
Stolen yesterday and you're still thinking about what to do?

My first thought is that insurance is going to ask why it's taken so long to phone up and inform them of the situation and second would be how many speeding tickets are you going to get through the post because tiefs have been doing naughty things.


Police were informed minutes after the bike was stolen, I also called them an hour later to get a crime reference number and ensure it's logged on their system.

I'm planning to call my insurance company this afternoon to let them know.
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PostPosted: 13:45 - 27 Sep 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

mbond65 wrote:

I insured the bike (CB400SF) for the value of £1000 when I first took out the policy, after around 15,000+ miles on it I expect it's worth just over half that.


mbond65 wrote:
Ste wrote:
What's the excess on your policy?


£500



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PostPosted: 13:52 - 27 Sep 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good news, the prices on the CB400SF seem to be rising.

Bad news, you won't get more than the value that you declared.

Worse news, £500 excess, weeks of dicking around, then a loss of NCB and a loss that needs to be declared on every motor insurance policy for the next 5 years.

I think I'd tell them to cancel the insurance as you no longer have the bike. It's completely true, just not the complete truth.

If you want to let the policy run to collect a year's NCB, you could always tell them by post, by which I mean get a certificate of posting something to their address.

InB4 "I pay monthly".
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PostPosted: 13:56 - 27 Sep 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

What Roger says about telling them you no longer have the bike and so wish to cancel the policy sounds a good bet.

How many years NCB have you got on that policy? How many months left on the policy?

Have you been out looking for your bike yet?
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PostPosted: 14:26 - 27 Sep 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks

I only paid £179 for a year because I have some NCB from when I had a 125.

I have roughly 8 months left on the policy but maybe like you've said it's worth leaving it as it is for the next eight months for the no claims.

I have added a second bike to the policy so ideally I would like to keep the policy until it ends.
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PostPosted: 15:05 - 27 Sep 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

You want to get the stolen bike off the policy ASAP because if it's involved in a crash, your insurer still has to pay out to 3rd parties but can then come after you for not telling them.

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/scots-biker-insurance-hell-after-4141840
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PostPosted: 15:18 - 27 Sep 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

To add to what the Borg said, if you do nothing, you will still be the registered keeper, so if the bike's being ridden around by some scumbag, you'll be receiving all his fixed penalties, no matter what you've told plod, because it's easier to catch you out than it is to catch a criminal, they always take the path of least resistance!

Good luck trying to "deregister" a bike, you could of course sell it to a Mr B.Lobby, Wrinkly bottom, etc. etc.!
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PostPosted: 15:21 - 27 Sep 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

mbond65 wrote:
Thanks

I only paid £179 for a year because I have some NCB from when I had a 125.

I have roughly 8 months left on the policy but maybe like you've said it's worth leaving it as it is for the next eight months for the no claims.

I have added a second bike to the policy so ideally I would like to keep the policy until it ends.


So just remove the stolen bike? I dunno is this a thing? or is the first bike somehow the "Master bike". Either way if the stolen bike is in an accident, your Insurance is liable for third party claims and you are liable for their exposure,and they Will come for their money.
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PostPosted: 15:33 - 27 Sep 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks all.

I will get it sorted out tonight.

Please excuse the dumb questions, head is all over the place at the moment - not a good start to the week.. Laughing
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PostPosted: 15:46 - 27 Sep 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are a lot of stupider questions that get asked. Laughing

What was the CB locked up with?
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PostPosted: 15:52 - 27 Sep 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmm, belatedly, I am sorry to hear this, and hope you don't get double-penetrated by your insurers over it. I quite fancy a CB400SF, they look like very plucky bikes.
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PostPosted: 09:10 - 29 Sep 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

You should contact your insurance company and file a claim as soon as possible.
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NJD
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PostPosted: 09:32 - 29 Sep 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

DylanMitchell wrote:
You should contact your insurance company and file a claim as soon as possible.


I bet insurance companies love your bank account.

£500 excess with a bike that's worth £500.

Now that I assume you can't fail to read that after failing to read it written above do expand on how your suggestion is in any way sensible. That is providing that you understand what I've just said.
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PostPosted: 09:35 - 29 Sep 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

If OP phoned his insurer and said "Bike stolen, remove from policy please - however, I do _not_ want to claim" - surely he wouldn't need to declare anything for the next five years - isn't it only _claims_ that need to be declared?
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PostPosted: 10:30 - 29 Sep 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

A guy I know really well had the same situation years ago. This guy couldn't get insurance on his bike because he was temporarily hospitalised in an accident. Someone then nicked it.

Police were informed ASAP, bike was de-registered and he may have forgotten to mention it to the insurance company. Slipped his mind.

A second sportsbike, less than a year old was nicked from this friend and due to circumstances, he was and wasn't insured (messy situation but he received a decent payout - don't ask). Again, insurance was none the wiser although the police were informed and he de-registered it.

Not declaring to the insurance company worked fine. Pointless given the payout.
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PostPosted: 10:47 - 29 Sep 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

goto10 wrote:
If OP phoned his insurer and said "Bike stolen, remove from policy please - however, I do _not_ want to claim" - surely he wouldn't need to declare anything for the next five years - isn't it only _claims_ that need to be declared?


I wouldn't tell them it was stolen, simply that I no longer wished to insure it.
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PostPosted: 10:49 - 29 Sep 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

goto10 wrote:
isn't it only _claims_ that need to be declared?

Accidents, claims, or losses.

Least said, soonest not bum-pumped.
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