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PostPosted: 09:12 - 07 Oct 2016    Post subject: Investments Reply with quote

If you had a spare £1000 and you wanted to invest it, what would you do with it?

I know to some, £1000 isn't a load of money and to other this might be too much to risk but this is just make believe.

But could you beat the dismal interest offered by a high street savings account? (without chucking it all on red or black!)
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PostPosted: 09:30 - 07 Oct 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

How did you get the £1000? What are your wages/income?

£1000 is not enough even by Czech standards, to use as an reasonable investment. I'd put it in my savings account and leave it there. There's no get rich scheme, that £1000 would get you, definitely not quick enough.

The roulette might be the quickest way with the highest return. 50-50 chance, takes about 30 seconds. Wink
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PostPosted: 09:30 - 07 Oct 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd use that £1000 and do some matched betting. There's plenty of people on BCF that have made decent money doing so.
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PostPosted: 09:46 - 07 Oct 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

RhynoCZ wrote:
How did you get the £1000? What are your wages/income?


It's only make believe, but I do have savings doing nothing for me. I was thinking of putting £1000 into something to see how I got on, rather than the lot. Then I could do it a bit higher risk/reward without having to worry too much.
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PostPosted: 09:48 - 07 Oct 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Joe wrote:
I'd use that £1000 and do some matched betting. There's plenty of people on BCF that have made decent money doing so.


I think this is a good idea. I've noticed that long thread about it and will have a read through over the weekend.

One thing I did try was Trading 212 on my phone. I opened a practise account, but my performance was appalling! I think I was seeing it as gambling, which it kind of is, rather than doing any research.
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PostPosted: 09:59 - 07 Oct 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

fatjames wrote:
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How did you get the £1000? What are your wages/income?


It's only make believe, but I do have savings doing nothing for me. I was thinking of putting £1000 into something to see how I got on, rather than the lot. Then I could do it a bit higher risk/reward without having to worry too much.


I see, so gambling then. I know a few people who did quite well for them, betting on sports events. But, let me warn you as well, 2 of this people now owe big money (£50k+) and one already announced personal bankruptcy.

Does your gov. emit bonds? Buy that, if you want to invest in something. Do not buy bonds from private banks, as those are not as safe. As private banks go bankrupt every day.
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PostPosted: 10:16 - 07 Oct 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

The matched betting thread seems to have disappeared.

I looked at the pathfinder ISA which sounds interesting. As it's an ISA, I could stick a lump sum in, then top up monthly.

They predict £75-£150 for every £1000 invested over 1 year.

https://www.fidelity.co.uk/investor/isa/open-isa/stocks-and-shares-isa/pathfinder-isa-o.page?context=isa&utm_expid=19366235-110.VNpLJsTIQsCkclNH_sLsUg.1&utm_referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.fidelity.co.uk%2Finvestor%2Fisa%2Fnew-stocks-and-shares-isa-affiliates.page%3Futm_source%3Domg%26utm_medium%3Daffmktg%26utm_campaign%3Domg_isa_funds_generic_text_link_test%26utm_content%3D467418%26affiliates%3Domg_isa_funds_generic_text_link_test
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PostPosted: 10:24 - 07 Oct 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

RhynoCZ wrote:


Does your gov. emit bonds? Buy that, if you want to invest in something. Do not buy bonds from private banks, as those are not as safe. As private banks go bankrupt every day.


The UK government sells premium bonds they pay out very little and you can get nothing as well as the odds were slashed.

Also the thing is about junk bonds and lending circle type arrangements is they pay higher interest for the higher risk there were some that you could get 12%.


If I were you? Probably change it into RMB/USD or something. I personally see GBP to USD at $1.23 in the near term.

Oh it's already at $1.24 and went as low as $1.18 Shocked



Or invest in some memories and experiences. Try something new. Your time on earth is very limited.

Money usually comes back, your time doesn't.
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PostPosted: 10:26 - 07 Oct 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

£1000 buys a lovely bottle of cognac and you'll enjoy it a lot more than 0.5% p/a
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PostPosted: 10:27 - 07 Oct 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Coke and strippers is always a good investment Thumbs Up

Been looking into ISA's myself, lifetime ISA's are launching next April: https://www.moneysavingexpert.com/savings/lifetime-ISAs I'm too thick to work out if they're a good idea or not Confused Apparently when they launch you'll be able to upgrade from a help to buy ISA.

With interest rates so low I'm not sure what else there's.
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PostPosted: 10:57 - 07 Oct 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Interest rates are low and the banks are getting tighter. I opened a Santander 123 account purely because they were giving 3% interest on amounts between £1000 & £20000 with instant access. I have just got a letter saying they are reducing that to 1.5% Rolling Eyes

My best return (and it's pretty shite) is my company shares. I'm getting about 6% dividend paid as more shares but, and it's a big but, the value of the shares can of course drop and although I am still getting 6% in shares that doesn't mean I'm getting 6% in money.
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PostPosted: 12:00 - 07 Oct 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Other than physical assets, I am so glad I have 90+% of my net worth in currencies other than GBP right now.

Buy £200 of bitcoin, £200 of Ethereum, £400 of USD and keep the £200 in the bank for usefulness.
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PostPosted: 12:00 - 07 Oct 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would buy an appreciating asset that requires small to no ongoing expenses.

Think luxury watches, Art, vintage guitars etc etc - whatever area your interests in.

Or buy something because you have an opportunity to do so at a very cheap rate knowing somebody just wants a quick sale but is an item that may cost you 1K but be worth £1500 if you can wait for the right buyer (months potentially).

Also, follow the news and look at shares? OH NOES VW been naughty with emissions and share prices have fallen X%.... couple of months later back up 20%...

loads of things you can do!
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PostPosted: 12:12 - 07 Oct 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would sack off the idea of straight 'return on the money' and spend it on something that has a decent chance of improving my income from labour.

Or keep it around in easy access and go for this:

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Or buy something because you have an opportunity to do so at a very cheap rate knowing somebody just wants a quick sale but is an item that may cost you 1K but be worth £1500 if you can wait for the right buyer (months potentially).


I generally think people obsess a bit too much over percentage returns on small sums.

If you use the grand to move a bit closer to work, perform better, and can get a 500 quid pay rise that might be 10K over a lifetime.

Or buy better food and become healthier. Or a gym membership. Or a decent road bike with good resale value. etc.

Basically, look at things that are not viable with large sums but are with small. It'd be hard to spend 100K on self improvement, so traditional 'investment' is better there.

WRT matched betting - I made about 3K back in the day from that, but I didn't really see it as locking up capital. It took about a month in total and the only real risk was bookies going bankrupt. I don't think I even needed 1K startup, 200-300 was enough if starting with the low offers.
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PostPosted: 12:16 - 07 Oct 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

How much time are you wanting to put into the investment?

How much risk are you willing to take with the money?
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PostPosted: 12:18 - 07 Oct 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Coke, strippers, booze and some experiences* have all been accounted for, but I'd really like to get more than 2% on the rest while I save for a deposit on a place.
I think I should be able to put it aside for 12-24 months without needing access to it. I also don't mind splitting it up a bit.

Done a bit of reading on matched betting, sounds doable but time consuming. I might have a little practise with <£100 and see how I get on.

*I might get a car and do some track days! I took my not so little brother out for a groupon in Wales to drive some sports cars on track, which was really fun. But the track was small and the experience was over way too quickly. I drove a Ferrari F430, a Lamborghini Gallardo and the BMW i8 Smile The i8 is a hybrid 1.6 and it felt so fast. Probably the nearest I've been to bike acceleration in a car.
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PostPosted: 12:20 - 07 Oct 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Artist wrote:
I am so glad I have 90+% of my net worth in currencies other than GBP right now.


Oh, and this. Though not quite 90% here.

Then again, I didn't do this as a deliberate play, it was more that I saw myself potentially emigrating, so it made sense to lock in an average of all currencies at a relatively strong point.

I'd have bought a load of petrol at 1.00 but couldn't find a viable mechanism.

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but I'd really like to get more than 2% on the rest while I save for a deposit on a place.


I suspect your risk tolerance is pretty low here, then. 1250 vs 1000 would be a 25% gain and will make virtually zero difference on a deposit. Current account/cash ISA might be the best option.
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PostPosted: 12:24 - 07 Oct 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Derivative wrote:

Then again, I didn't do this as a deliberate play,



I did and it was deliberate. Printy printy burned me badly in 2008. I didn't want to get burned again so it all went overseas.
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PostPosted: 12:28 - 07 Oct 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

£1000 spare only.

Hmm.. my savings account just went down to something stupid like 0.01% Rolling Eyes

premium bonds maybe
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PostPosted: 12:37 - 07 Oct 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

I only said £1000 to get some ideas (don't really want to say on here how much)

Foreign currency sounds like a favoured thing to invest in. With this, do you keep the cash in your safe or trade on the price (like Forex)?

Ste - Time is something that I don't have loads of. Especially during the day. But I do have my evenings and weekends. Regarding risk, I think if I split the cash up, I'd be happy to play with some and be a bit more sensible with the rest. I haven't looked into the tax side of things yet though.
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PostPosted: 12:56 - 07 Oct 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

How much you're looking to invest is a crucial detail if you're wanting appropriate advice.
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PostPosted: 14:14 - 07 Oct 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Invest in yourself. A Locksmith course can be had for £6-700, HGV for a grand.
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PostPosted: 14:35 - 07 Oct 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shares.
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PostPosted: 17:30 - 07 Oct 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

adriansk wrote:
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PostPosted: 17:35 - 07 Oct 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

probably Some thing tangible .. like Gold...

again £1k is not gonna get you much...
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