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The Shaggy D.A.
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PostPosted: 11:55 - 07 Oct 2016    Post subject: Unpopular bikes Reply with quote

I might be looking at a YBR 250 tomorrow as it ticks a lot of my boxes. I'm wary of the fact that there's been less than 300 registered in the UK :-

https://www.howmanyleft.co.uk/vehicle/yamaha_ybr_250_07#!newreg

2/3rds of those are still registered though. How likely would you be to consider a bike that hadn't sold that well?
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PostPosted: 12:07 - 07 Oct 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Depends on the part availability and whether a lot of it is transferable from a more common bike like the YBR125.

In car land, I've certainly enjoyed the Civic just because there's billions of them. Purchase price is lower, parts are cheap as chips, someone's already had every conceivable problem, etc.

I'd probably do it for something exciting like a Husqvarna, but a 250 sounds like a pretty boring bike to take the risk on.
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PostPosted: 13:02 - 07 Oct 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

If it was something special to cherish then rarity wouldn't be a big deal, perhaps even desired. For daily use though, I like my vehicles to be as common as muck (hence ford focus and honda CBR). Parts supply is always at the back of my mind when choosing something motorised.

Would a parallel twin 500+ tick your boxes?
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PostPosted: 13:07 - 07 Oct 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

DrDonnyBrago wrote:
Would a parallel twin 500+ tick your boxes?


Of all the bikes I've had, the CB500 was the one I kept the longest (6 years). What I'm after is a YBR125 that can cruise at 65, rather than having 65 as its top speed Smile
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PostPosted: 13:17 - 07 Oct 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have a look at the inazuma instead.
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PostPosted: 13:20 - 07 Oct 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

There's a ybr250 on my commute that seems to have been going strong for a while, seems in good condition too for a bike that's used year round, but I've no idea on how it's stored or looked after.
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PostPosted: 13:35 - 07 Oct 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had a rare car for a few years (Mitsubishi Galant - not uber-rare but like hens' teeth at breakers')

The occasional part would go missing. Wing mirror glass being very neatly removed overnight was one example - presumably because they're hard/expensive to source elsewhere.
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PostPosted: 13:36 - 07 Oct 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Has the market for 500 twins tanked since the licence changes? Could be a good time to buy another CB500 or a GPZ500 etc?
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PostPosted: 13:43 - 07 Oct 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

DrDonnyBrago wrote:
Has the market for 500 twins tanked since the licence changes? Could be a good time to buy another CB500 or a GPZ500 etc?


Hadn't even thought of that. Wouldn't mind another CB5 if I could grab one cheap. Hm.
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PostPosted: 13:55 - 07 Oct 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

arry wrote:
Have a look at the inazuma instead.


I did. Slow and heavy, poor MPG, poor range - might as well get another Enfield. Which is on my list still.
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PostPosted: 14:28 - 07 Oct 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

How does the ybr250 go up against the cbf250? I seem to see the latter every now and again. Can't imagine there's much difference tbh.
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PostPosted: 14:43 - 07 Oct 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

trevor saxe-coburg-gotha wrote:
How does the ybr250 go up against the cbf250? I seem to see the latter every now and again. Can't imagine there's much difference tbh.


YBR's fuel injected, CBF is carbed. YBR has the edge on speed & MPG, has the bigger tank. CBF has 843 units on the road still out there in comparison with the YBR's 234. YBR is 2 locknut valves, CBF has 4 with shims. Weight and seating position wise, almost identical.

It's also on my list.
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PostPosted: 14:47 - 07 Oct 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Huh - interesting. The YBR does look better on paper. However and for admittedly stupid reasons I prefer carbs - even though the mpg is worse. Even though they gum up without use. Even though EFI can be and often is just as smooth as carbs (the FI on the W800 is incredible and imo provides better fuelling than the carbs of the W650).
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PostPosted: 14:56 - 07 Oct 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was spoiled by the YBR125's Honey Badgeresque fuel injection.
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PostPosted: 15:39 - 07 Oct 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Shaggy D.A. wrote:

I did. Slow and heavy, poor MPG, poor range - might as well get another Enfield. Which is on my list still.


Wow, never realised Yamaha had kept the weight down so well. That's a big difference.
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PostPosted: 15:51 - 07 Oct 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

WeMoto has consumables, it might be worth a punt. I get the whole "just enough" bike thing, and if it is parts-compatible with the 125 then you're laughing.

The prices being asked on eBay for YBR 250s are pretty optimistic though. For comparison, I paid £1300 for a 2010 Ninja 250 with just 3600 miles on it and a long MOT. Sure, you want nekkid, but plastics can be taken off.
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PostPosted: 16:12 - 07 Oct 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's a rare bike also in Japan here.
Owners were saying like below in bikebros
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Pros
Big tank(19L) and very long tank mileage(about 400miles).
I wanted road bike with serow engine.
Torquey motor.
vibration over 6000rpm but not so bad,comfortable at 40mph cruise.
Easy U-turn.
Owned serow250 for 7 years but this is mostly different motor.
Smooth under 6000rpm thanks to good balancer.
Engine note is also different.
Enough acceleration till 60mph.

Cons
Finish Quality (China)
Fuel lamp(digital bars) not so accurate.(started flashing so started fueling, and found there was still 6 litre in it)
Design and colour is too normal.

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PostPosted: 16:19 - 07 Oct 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

+1 Inazuma...

I stopped and chatted with an old boy who had settled on one as his final bike, not long ago. He seemed very happy with it, though I could tell he missed his old big bike. Had a good look at the bike - it has all the benefits of modern technology: Ohlin-type adjustable rear shock, fuel injection, etc. Appears robustly made, from quality parts. Looks like a much bigger bike, so it has the road presence needed for safety reasons in the UK. Ride position is fairly upright, commuter-style, but the fairing probably makes it look more edgy to non-bikers. Quite a lot of plastic to damage in a crash, but there are bungs and things available. Overall, it seemed to me to be the sort of bike you buy with your head rather than your heart, which is a good thing.
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PostPosted: 17:18 - 07 Oct 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Inazuma has a 13.3 litre tank and masses 183kg wet. Fuelly reckons 75mpg, which is what I'm getting from my Ninja with its 20 litre tank and 170kg wet and fully faired.

That said, the Inazuma is probably tuned to produce more torque where you need it.

That said, I've taken to riding the Ninja on the rev limiter. Whistle
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PostPosted: 17:21 - 07 Oct 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tawny wrote:
Looks like a much bigger bike, so it has the road presence needed for safety reasons in the UK.


I'm a fat bastard. I'd have the same road presence on a Puch Maxi.
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PostPosted: 15:56 - 08 Oct 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gave it a good half hour test ride, would have one but not at the £2500 price being asked. I could get another Enfield and a 125 for that.
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PostPosted: 17:42 - 08 Oct 2016    Post subject: Re: Unpopular bikes Reply with quote

The Shaggy D.A. wrote:
. How likely would you be to consider a bike that hadn't sold that well?


Erm? let me see.......I own a Hyosung and a Honley Shocked .
As long as it`s mechanically sound, you`ve won half the battle.
It`s a Yamaha so you`re not going to have to many issues that cant be solved.
I should think that half the parts are the same as other current Yamaha models, but I`m guessing you already know that.

I`ll bet you`ll have less issues with a lesser selling Yamaha than you would with a Enfield ???? Smile
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PostPosted: 19:05 - 08 Oct 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Undoubtably. Problem is, I'm a sucker for the ThudThudThud.
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PostPosted: 19:08 - 08 Oct 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know they aren't cheap or easy to come by with low miles, but I really reckon you'd enjoy the Varadero 125.
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