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recman
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PostPosted: 11:48 - 07 Oct 2016    Post subject: Water. Reply with quote

We had a meter fitted around six months ago.
We were told that nothing would change charges wise for this year but the next bill would be governed by usage so my question is what experience have you had with meters, specifically how much difference did you notice to your bill.
I'm just trying to get some idea of what to expect really.
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PostPosted: 11:53 - 07 Oct 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Depends on a whole number of factors, what area do you live in, how many people live in the property, your habits with water etc etc.

If you can detail any of these things then I would be in a fairly good position to give you a fairly accurate answer.
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PostPosted: 12:00 - 07 Oct 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

It was a long time ago so my memory is fuzzy, but when I switched to a meter I think I was given the opportunity to go back to flat rate if it wasn't cheaper - do you have any deals like that on offer?
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PostPosted: 12:28 - 07 Oct 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm in Luton, three adults in the house, we only really take showers, don't really do much water related except the occasional car/bike wash. No dish washer.

Haven't looked into the return to flat rate offer tbh, I'll check.
We were paying around the £400 mark for the year.
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PostPosted: 13:10 - 07 Oct 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

I moved house from a flat rate to a metered property - similar size and C.tax etc. Typically showers rather than baths and use of a dishwasher most days. I don't wash vehicles but wife does water the garden.

My bill went down, but I also became more frugal with water use.

e.g. Part of the process when brewing beer is to cool a very large quantity of boiling wort (unfermented beer) as quickly as possible. To this end, running cold water through a copper coil is very effective, but on full blast wastes a few hundred litres of water at a time. I have to be more careful now that I am actually paying for it - lower flow rate and I've taken to carrying to hot waste (but perfectly clean) water in buckets to the bath tub for after I'm done brewing.
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PostPosted: 13:41 - 07 Oct 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Easy way to think of it: If there are less people than bedrooms, meter is cheaper. More people than bedrooms, rates are cheaper.

Yes I'm aware teenagers don't wash, and some people take ages in the shower, etc, etc.
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PostPosted: 14:17 - 07 Oct 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

We changed to a meter when it was just me and the wife. All good. Daughter moved back home. Lives in the bathroom, all bad.
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PostPosted: 16:05 - 07 Oct 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Meter is a cnut.

You must in the back of your mind think you are actually paying to keep a lawn green. Shocked

Rain Butts are a solution but they still cost more to buy than the saving possibly.

There may come a day when metered is what you get take it or leave it. Sad
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PostPosted: 17:21 - 07 Oct 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had a meter fitted around nine months ago.

Currently, it's saving me around £60 over the year. Considering I live alone and I'm at work most of the time, that's not a great saving imo.

Factor in 2 adults and a 2.4 sprogs and you'll be considerably out of pocket on a metre.
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PostPosted: 17:57 - 07 Oct 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Our area had mandatory meters fitted a couple of years ago. Our bill went down fairly significantly (about 1/3 IIRC) - two adults, two teenagers, assorted animals in a 4 bedroom house. The kids mainly shower, the wife and I tend to bath. We wash bikes reasonably often (especially my son with his MTB during the summer), cars not so much.

We are reasonably frugal (no massive watering of the garden), and I turned down the water pressure in the kitchen slightly because the ladies tend to turn the tap on full blast for ages whilst rinsing stuff, but no real change to habits.
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PostPosted: 18:06 - 07 Oct 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

recman wrote:
I'm in Luton, three adults in the house, we only really take showers, don't really do much water related except the occasional car/bike wash. No dish washer.

Haven't looked into the return to flat rate offer tbh, I'll check.
We were paying around the £400 mark for the year.


Depending on your current rates you could quite easily knock £100 off that bill.

Be aware that a good chunk of your bill will be the various standing charges.

If you are with affinity water your rate is £1.36 per cubic meter (m3) - or 1000 litres

The average human uses 50m3 per year - you will probably use slightly less than 150m3 in the year.

Do you have a company like Thames or Anglian water providing your wastewater services? As this will most likely be based on 92.5% of your fresh water consumption. Be aware wastewater services are more expensive than fresh water.
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PostPosted: 20:13 - 07 Oct 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

found meter cheaper in one place cheaper and another more expensive, depends on property really and how many there are of you
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PostPosted: 22:20 - 07 Oct 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

My gaffer has a meter
It's saving him about 200 quid a month

He has a leak in a field on his farm and they were charging him for all his water
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PostPosted: 22:55 - 07 Oct 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

We're on rated (x2, water in and water out, 60 quid a fucking month), I often leave a cold tap or two running all day. We paid for the water infrastructure, just so that whore thatcher could sell OUR property to private scum and allow the parasites to profit from a fundamental human need. I look forward to Corbyn getting in and taking it back into public ownership.
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PostPosted: 23:13 - 07 Oct 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hetzer wrote:
60 quid a fucking month


Shit! Shocked
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PostPosted: 07:49 - 08 Oct 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hetzer wrote:
I look forward to Corbyn getting in and taking it back into public ownership.


And you think it will be any cheaper Laughing

Mother was £400 a year water rates. Now paying £17 a month....
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PostPosted: 08:53 - 08 Oct 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

iooi wrote:
Hetzer wrote:
I look forward to Corbyn getting in and taking it back into public ownership.


And you think it will be any cheaper Laughing

Mother was £400 a year water rates. Now paying £17 a month....


I reckon the double-whammy fraud would be done away with at least.
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PostPosted: 17:15 - 08 Oct 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Everybody pays for water and wastewater services - depending on where you live will depend on who you pay for each service. It just so happens where I live I pay just one company.

The future of the water industry is in an 'open market place' where you choose your supplier - this is beginning next year for commercial customers and I can only foresee it opening up to domestic customers too. However, all this really does is separate the wholesale of water to the billing side... your water will still come from the same place from the same sources on the same network operated by the same people. But you would choose who bills you (like electricity and gas is now).
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PostPosted: 18:05 - 08 Oct 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

We switched to a meter a few years ago, they wanted about 600+ a year for water rates, now we pay abiut £20 a month.
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PostPosted: 18:12 - 08 Oct 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

mpd72 wrote:
Hetzer wrote:


I reckon the double-whammy fraud would be done away with at least.


Do you mean paying for sewage as well as fresh water?


Oh, sewers aren't paid for by income tax? Council tax? Or just under one all-inclusive water-bill?

Tch, how silly of me...you just want to have another try at teaching people how to bend over. Mr. Green

I should charge them for cleaning the local sewers with all the fresh clean water I put down them when I'm running the taps all day. And for the rain they get off my roof.
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PostPosted: 19:02 - 08 Oct 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hetzer wrote:

Oh, sewers aren't paid for by income tax? Council tax? Or just under one all-inclusive water-bill?

Tch, how silly of me...you just want to have another try at teaching people how to bend over. Mr. Green

I should charge them for cleaning the local sewers with all the fresh clean water I put down them when I'm running the taps all day. And for the rain they get off my roof.


The rain belongs to God/Allah or someone else.

You would have to piss in it as it landed so you could claim it had been 'treated' by you.
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PostPosted: 21:00 - 08 Oct 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hetzer wrote:
I should charge them....And for the rain they get off my roof.

I've some news for you and you won't like it.
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