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PostPosted: 21:30 - 10 Oct 2016    Post subject: The ying and yang of motorcycling Reply with quote

Apologies if this has been done before or is unutterably shit, but I thought it might be fun to enumerate the things that make us grin from ear to ear about motorbikes - but this being an awful world where nothing comes for free, I'd also like to see something that makes you want to rip your own balls off in sheer annoyance and frustration.

As a starter for ten, here's mine:

+ the traffic light GP when you time it just right and take advantage of your superior acceleration to burn off a cage. Yes, this can even be done on a 125.

- the misery of wet legs when you've not got your waterproofs on and you're travelling on a soggy and fast road
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PostPosted: 21:42 - 10 Oct 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's yin.
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PostPosted: 21:43 - 10 Oct 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

SophR so good wrote:
It's yin.


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PostPosted: 21:45 - 10 Oct 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had that with fried rice.
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PostPosted: 21:47 - 10 Oct 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just fried rice?
I had the full p'tang yang kipperbang...with fried rice.
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PostPosted: 21:49 - 10 Oct 2016    Post subject: Re: The ying and yang of motorcycling Reply with quote

carpe_diem wrote:
I'd also like to see something that makes you want to rip your own balls off

This thread needs a nsfw tag. Wink
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PostPosted: 21:50 - 10 Oct 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

SophR so good wrote:
It's yin.


So it is. Fuck my idiot brain.
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PostPosted: 22:18 - 10 Oct 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

The good ; the weather, filtering
The bad ; the weather, having fiat 500 keep up on the twisties Embarassed
The ugly ; https://www.honda.co.uk/motorcycles/range/custom/nm4-vultus-2014/overview.html
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PostPosted: 22:28 - 10 Oct 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good - The feeling of going from leaning one way then the next on twisties
Accelerating at speeds car drivers will never understand without spending a £million
The community of bikers

Bad - Shit gear in bad weather
Gripping the seat with your arse cheeks passing over slippery surfaces you cant avoid or didnt see until last minute!
Cage driver that cant see you!

Edit....
I should also add as a plus, i love the way bikes look.
Not just one brand... all of them, can walk round and stare at one for 10 minutes.
Cars...meh, box with wheels :/
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PostPosted: 22:40 - 10 Oct 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

SophR so good wrote:
It's yin.


The contextual ads at the bottom of the page disagree with you, fite!
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PostPosted: 00:07 - 11 Oct 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

+ parking wherever i like
- westminster
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PostPosted: 03:57 - 11 Oct 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

+Destroy anything short of a supercar with a budget 600

- The people that have tantrums about you revving the bollocks off of it when starting on choke/enrichener/fast idle
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PostPosted: 04:24 - 11 Oct 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

The surreal sensation of sitting on top of quarter ton of steel and aluminium, balanced on two fifty pence piece sized patches of rubber, at about 45 degrees to the vertical, gravity trying to pull you down, centripetal force holding you up; acceleration pushing you round, wind trying to hold you back; a web of invisible forces in constant flux, always shifting, competing, fighting over your fate....

The mystery and majesty of it, and the foolish delusion that some-how I must be 'in control' of it all, when in fact, I am merely a passenger with influence...

The metaphysical detachment of being in such perilous physical state of chaos; whilst simultaneously, mentally, being on a different plane of being; in which time occurs in random packets, where the trivial, the tedious, the meaningless mundanity of life is rendered into insignificance, whilst the magnitude of simply 'being' is drawn into sharp focus and amplified. It transcends such conundrums of karmic categorization; there IS no Yin or Yang, merely the wah, 'everything' it's strength, its weakness, its power; it's very essence, its very energy, exposed, displayed, and offered for you to draw on how you may.

Look, you started this Yin & Yang crap!!!!! go read Zen & the art of Motorcycle maintenance!!!!!
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And what is good, Phædrus,
And what is not good...
Need we ask anyone to tell us these things?


But if you get off a bike in such a state of mind you are thinking about crap like how well you got off the line at a set of traffic lights, or ball sump water (not) proofs.. you aint getting it... you really aren't! When you fall off the bike, and stumble into 'reality' like you have just stepped off the first Thomsons package holiday shuttle to Mars, with a sudden overwhelming and suffocating sense of crushing return to 'the normal'... THEN, just then, maybe, just maybe you're starting to 'get it'.
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PostPosted: 07:24 - 11 Oct 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice thread!

Good: Too many to list.

^^^What he said up there ultimately ^^^
Riding a new found road, up in the mountains, rolling hills or sea view and the sense of wonder and exploration you get from it.

The sunrises in the morning, the foggy mist along the Cotswold fields. Knowing that commuting to work could hardly get better than this.

Riding in pissing rain, everyone is in their steam boxes thinking you're mad. You however, are warm and dry and more alive in that moment than anything.

Moment when you think 'feck it' and hold on to 2nd gear through that bend. Give the bars a bit of a push, lean over, everything flows. Was that the neatest you've cornered yet? Oh and the smooth sound of that inline 4, sexy as feck!

Watching down the road, like a road Judge. You see that brake light 4 cars down, an indicator flashes, you show a brake light to the car behind. Following your actions are the 3 cars in front. You saw that first.

The bubble guts I get often, pre journey or commute. Like I'm gonna die today. Then you rarely notice as it disappears in an instant as you pull away for the ride ahead.

When your bike breaks down, only to be fixed with a Philips screwdriver, pair of snips and some insulation tape. Such simple but needy mechanics. Satisfying to fix so easily.

50mpg, 0-60 mph in 4 seconds. Are you for real?!

I could go on...

Bad bits.

Additional risk of death and broken body. Nothing much we can do about that. It's also part of the fun, live to ride another day.

That itchy heat you get when arriving somewhere in winter. The heatings on and I've got 10 fecking layers on.

Helmet hair.

Mouse fart horns.
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PostPosted: 08:41 - 11 Oct 2016    Post subject: Re: The ying and yang of motorcycling Reply with quote

carpe_diem wrote:
Apologies if this has been done before or is unutterably shit, but I thought it might be fun to enumerate the things that make us grin from ear to ear about motorbikes - but this being an awful world where nothing comes for free, I'd also like to see something that makes you want to rip your own balls off in sheer annoyance and frustration.

As a starter for ten, here's mine:

+ the traffic light GP when you time it just right and take advantage of your superior acceleration to burn off a cage. Yes, this can even be done on a 125.

- the misery of wet legs when you've not got your waterproofs on and you're travelling on a soggy and fast road


Not sure that's quite how the ontology of taoism works. I thought the two extremes couldn't exist without each other. So e.g. you don't have to ride in the rain later to enjoy a "win" at the lights now. However you DO arguably have to have the danger of travelling fast on two wheels in order to have the accompanying thrill.

Those latter two things are inseparable. But getting more specific I might say e.g. a yin of biking would be the glorious rural local roads over the wolds and dales. The yang is the heavy mechanised agricultural machinery you encounter around every bend (or the mud they leave behind them). The two are inseparable in that you can't really live out in the country without coming across tractors.
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PostPosted: 09:00 - 11 Oct 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think I’ve said on here before, but I never realised that riding would be more than just a way to get from A to B. I love the feel of the bike beneath me, the change of smells through a cracked open visor as you travel through different areas and the feel of different road surfaces. I’m still loving the novelty of getting myself to places, rather than relying on hubby and taxis. And while no means a speedy rider, I love that feeling when you kick it up a gear, let the clutch out and give it some.

For me, the ball (lip?) ache, is the prep. On with the gear, cover off, disc lock off, almax off. I just want to get on and go!
I’m also frustrated with my newbie-ness. I’m still not confident with twisties and know I slow down too much for bends. This stops me from joining the group rides that I’d love to take part in – as I don’t want to piss others off. I hope I get good, soon.
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PostPosted: 09:02 - 11 Oct 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good, getting on the bike and giving it a little........ok a big rev and hearing it roaar Mr. Green

Bad, Sticking it in 1st gear forgetting to put the sidestand up Embarassed
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PostPosted: 09:06 - 11 Oct 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

The good: opening the garage door on a sunny day and there it is, all shiny and ready to go.
The good: roads that have very little traffic on them and I'm on it.
The good: when on the bigger bikes, accelerating so hard, it feels like the bike is trying to rip your arms out Smile
The good: getting off the bike at the end of your journey and you your heart is thumping and you think " yer baby yer!"

The bad: intermittent problems that you can't find the reason for, like a mis-fire or hesitation in picking up on acceleration ?
The bad: getting soaked and cold.
The bad: twat cagers!
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PostPosted: 09:31 - 11 Oct 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

faffergotgunz wrote:
The bubble guts I get often, pre journey or commute. Like I'm gonna die today. Then you rarely notice as it disappears in an instant as you pull away for the ride ahead.


Glad I'm not the only one who gets that. Even after all the years I've been riding.
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PostPosted: 09:32 - 11 Oct 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yang: Sunshine on.
Yin: A rainy day.

Yang: Always being able to make progress even if it's via the footway in extremis (yes, I'm all right, thanks for asking).
Yin: The hours spent not riding but in maintenance, fettling and enrobing/disrobing.
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PostPosted: 11:06 - 11 Oct 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:


Ah - Toryglen. Everything makes sense now. Mr. Green
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PostPosted: 11:27 - 11 Oct 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

+ Getting away with it.
- Not getting away with it.

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PostPosted: 19:10 - 11 Oct 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

The good - getting 100mpg
The bad - never getting 100 mph
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PostPosted: 21:02 - 11 Oct 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pro - Cheap, fast transport
Con - Having to put on an extra set of clothes to use it.
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PostPosted: 21:32 - 11 Oct 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Definitely agree with all the sentiments about how annoying it is to don extra shit in order to ride (although obviously not as annoying as road rash or other injuries that come from not being adequately dressed). The fettling can be quite calming, though. Not that I've been able to do much recently, like.
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