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PostPosted: 21:29 - 13 Nov 2016    Post subject: Clutch Problem Reply with quote

Hi all

I have recently bought a 2010 Gladius with 16k on the clock and lots of Service History.

I bought the Bike off a riding School and they have just had it fully serviced.

The person also told me that the Bike has had a new Clutch around 1 Year ago.

I have however noticed that at quick accelerations on the Motorway is the Clutch slipping.

Today the problem has gotten worse to an extent whereby I have on numerous occasion had the Bike in Neutral but unable to shift into first or second Gear.

There have also been occasions where I tried to change Gear but the Gear indicator just went blank and when releasing and pulling the Gear lever again does the Bike then pickup the Gear and then eventually goes into Gear.

The Bike is not been booked into a Motorbike Garage on Monday but I thought of asking you guys for some advice first to save myself some time and money.

I personally believe that the Clutch Cable is on it's way out and doubt that it would need any replacement parts on the Clutch as its only been replaced a year ago.

Thanks for any advice and help.....much appreciated !
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PostPosted: 21:32 - 13 Nov 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Certainly checking clutch cable free play and drag would be first port of call.
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PostPosted: 21:39 - 13 Nov 2016    Post subject: Re: Clutch Problem Reply with quote

wali110 wrote:

I personally believe that the Clutch Cable is on it's way out and doubt that it would need any replacement parts on the Clutch as its only been replaced a year ago.

Thanks for any advice and help.....much appreciated !


It might have been replaced only a year ago but you probably did 5 years worth of wear and tear riding it when it slips under load. Plus you bought it off a riding school and the hardest thing for new riders to get the hang of is clutch control so expect it to have been slipped a lot.

Look at this photo. This is your clutch pushrod adjuster. Slacken the cable, set the pushrod clearance with this adjuster then set the cable free-play. If it still slips fit a new clutch pack.
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PostPosted: 21:43 - 13 Nov 2016    Post subject: Re: Clutch Problem Reply with quote

wali110 wrote:
The Bike is not been booked into a Motorbike Garage on Monday but I thought of asking you guys for some advice first to save myself some time and money.

I personally believe that the Clutch Cable is on it's way out and doubt that it would need any replacement parts on the Clutch as its only been replaced a year ago.

Thanks for any advice and help.....much appreciated !


If you've booked it in, despite you writing "is not" for some reason, then you might as well wait and pick up the bill rather than having us chase our own tails for no reason. Someone could probably guess, and be accurate, as to what to check but given your first port of call was to phone the garage are you really going to act on advice, are you mechanically minded enough to do so?

Truth is you've purchased the bike from a training school and therefore as subject to use of a product that has been well and truly abused day in day out for every mile of it's life, the clutch, by people of whom have limited idea of what they're doing. I'd say it's not safe to assume that the clutch is in good condition. Not a scare factor more of something you should have put into the buying consideration upon viewing.

Here's your service manual should you need it:

https://www.crservice.dk/Suzuki_mc/SFV650/SFV650_01E.pdf
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PostPosted: 22:30 - 13 Nov 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

wow !


Thank you for all your responses....i was amazed to see so many replies in such short time.

And yes sorry but I was meant to write that the Bike has been booked in on Monday for a Check on the Clutch which is free of charge and I thought of asking here first in case someone could of given me a guaranteed solution as your all experienced with Bikes.

Your answers made a lot of sense and I should have known better that the Bike was ridden by mainly newbies so the Clutch must have therefore gotten a good regular beating.

Nevertheless, I will keep you all posted on the findings of the Garage along with a possible solution and outcome.

Thank again Smile
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PostPosted: 22:30 - 13 Nov 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you suspect the clutch cable is 'on its way out', check it and know for sure. You don't have to guess. You can take a look at it. Is it adjusted to near its limit of tightness near the clutch and at the adjuster on the handlebar? Pull back the rubber and look for fraying strands. If you have fraying strands, don't ride it at all - just swap the cable.

It sounds as if what training school meant was, they swapped the plates about a year ago. Not swapped the whole clutch. I believe they would have slapped Ebay specials rather than Suzuki parts in there, which isn't too bad but, obviously, less is expected of them. My guess is, even though you probably haven't adjusted your clutch cable properly, the clutch cable probably isn't the problem. It's more likely that those plates are already worn out. Learners give them a really hard time.

You booked your bike in at the garage? Then there's no point consulting over here. It's just a slipping clutch, and they can fix it. This sort of thing happens all the time with training schools' bikes. You haven't booked your bike in at the garage? Then dump your oil, remove clutch cover and inspect the plates for signs of wear. And measure your clutch springs to ensure they are within tolerance, while you're at it.

If this info helps, I'd appreciate it if you don't overtake me on the inside of my own lane showing off to your mates while I'm riding as you familiarise yourself with first big bikey. Thanks.
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PostPosted: 22:42 - 13 Nov 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

wow thanks for your response.....yes that is definitely a possibility and I will check my Cable now first to see if there is any damage to it.

The reason why I posted on here was as I thought someone would have confirmed with me that from the sounds of it is it 100% the cable and I would have then went ahead and ordered one online.

But anyway...thank you again for all your responses.

I posted the same on a different Forum some days ago and never gotten any responses but now know where to get any help form should I need it.

Thanks to everyone who responded.

Peace !
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PostPosted: 22:50 - 13 Nov 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

wali110 wrote:
And yes sorry but I was meant to write that the Bike has been booked in on Monday for a Check on the Clutch which is free of charge and I thought of asking here first in case someone could of given me a guaranteed solution as your all experienced with Bikes.


Nothing's free. Business don't make money from telling people what's wrong and what to do, so why would they? Your bike under warrenty? If no then free probably means they'll tell you it needs booking in or they just to look at it to see how much they can get out of it. If you're not friendly or a regular at any particular place I'd be saving the pennies because dem labour and vat costs soon add up.
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PostPosted: 08:16 - 14 Nov 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

NJD wrote:
wali110 wrote:
And yes sorry but I was meant to write that the Bike has been booked in on Monday for a Check on the Clutch which is free of charge and I thought of asking here first in case someone could of given me a guaranteed solution as your all experienced with Bikes.


Nothing's free. Business don't make money from telling people what's wrong and what to do, so why would they? Your bike under warrenty? If no then free probably means they'll tell you it needs booking in or they just to look at it to see how much they can get out of it. If you're not friendly or a regular at any particular place I'd be saving the pennies because dem labour and vat costs soon add up.



My Bike is not under warranty unfortunately.

I have taken my 125cc there in the past a few times and the chaps are friendly....I left my Bike with them once before to find a problem which they did free of charge and they told me to leave this Bike with them and they would tell me about my Clutch also free of charge Smile
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PostPosted: 09:08 - 14 Nov 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Look after them guys then, not many garages like that knocking around these days.
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PostPosted: 09:28 - 14 Nov 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Case of beer at least Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 14:02 - 14 Nov 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bet they won't be getting any beer. A tray of dodgy Lebanese sweets OTOH... Laughing
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PostPosted: 07:51 - 16 Nov 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

So what was the problem OP?
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PostPosted: 12:32 - 17 Nov 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Been told by the garage it needa a new clutch £200 supplied and fitted.
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PostPosted: 13:26 - 17 Nov 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

16K miles and needing a third set of clutch plates?

When your spanner monkey goes in there, you'll want to ask them to look out for a broken or missing spring or something else that explains why it's eaten through the 2nd set so fast.
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PostPosted: 14:01 - 17 Nov 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

It doesn't surprise me. School bikes munch clutches like nobody's business.. Beginners practising slow control, goofing up U-turns, etc. The school Bandit I learned and took my test on had a completely munched-up clutch. The instructor knew this but he didn't want to take it in as it costs money. As long as it moves, they don't care that much. School bikes live a hard life. I'm sure they dream of ending up in my hands, but most aren't so lucky.
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PostPosted: 14:42 - 17 Nov 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes I thought of all these points off the responses I had of you guys and decided to just let them do the Job as I wanted to get back on my Bike to relief some stress lol Surprised .

My Taxi ride Home was amazing and one of a kind....you can read about it here: https://www.bikechatforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=316801
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PostPosted: 14:53 - 17 Nov 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Being nosey, how much did you pay for the bike in the first place? Just out of interest and not at all 'cos I have one I might get rid of.
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PostPosted: 15:07 - 17 Nov 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

It was advertised on ebay for £2250 and I got a bargain for £1800 Wink
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PostPosted: 15:21 - 17 Nov 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

wali110 wrote:
It was advertised on ebay for £2250 and I got a bargain for £1800 Wink


Bargain, hmm, debatable.

£1800 for a bike you've "recently" purchased that has had to have £200 worth of work done to it, I'd be pissed. Still, only £250 and you'll be square and out of money that you "saved" on this "bargain."

Get yourself a free workshop manual PDF from google and look at the jobs you can do yourself because dem labour costs.

I would post more but you're recent Hi-Viz thread has given you a tard title and you're yet to shake it off. Thumbs Down
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PostPosted: 16:27 - 17 Nov 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

ok thanks for the comment Smile
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PostPosted: 19:13 - 17 Nov 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

It was a bit cheaper but not massively so. There's a few on Gumtree similar year less miles for a couple of hundred quid more than you gave over.

As long as it's just the clutch it's not a terrible buy though.
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