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PostPosted: 23:07 - 16 Nov 2016    Post subject: £1500 for a second bike... Reply with quote

Once the Blade is sold i'll be taking £1,500 of the sale money and putting it a side for a second bike...

The second bike will be accompanying the bonkers K5 GSXR 1000. The idea is for the K5 to be my garage queen. A bike i'll only use for sunny rides out, weekends away, long rides to Wales etc. The K5 is not a bike I want to be riding inner-city or in winter.

So, what do I want from a second bike?
A wheelie friendly, comfortable, economical (but not a necessity) & a bike which won't lose me my my license stupidly easily... which screams 690 Duke (to me at least), but unfortunately £1500 doesn't get you a 690 duke. So I thought, what about a 640 Duke... I then read about how temperamental they can be and that put me right off.

So my plans for a big single may be out the window, so what am I left with...

Suzuki Bandit 1200
Honda VTR1000 Firestorm
A 600cc sports bike with a generic headlight and straight bars (aka a "street fighter") or buy a Cat D or C and do this myself.

Besides the three choices above I can't think of anything else. What do people recommend, I must have more of a choice than just 3 options surely.

I'll be doing circa 6k miles a year on it, it'll be used throughout winter & be my main form of daily transport. It'll probably get sold when eventually replaced for a car, which in reality won't be until I'm 25 (3 years from now).
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PostPosted: 23:38 - 16 Nov 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

What about zx9r or zzr600, you could go supermoto with a husky or similar or drz 400. You could look at adventure bikes for thumpers.
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PostPosted: 23:49 - 16 Nov 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do you really want two sportsbikes though? Or are you an Albigularis in that it's only sports bikes and big ones at that that have enough ability and capabilities for you?

Is your 6k a year all commuting? And do you do motorways and or need a fairing? I can't help thinking that if I had a 170bhp GSXR that for a second bike I would want something as different as you can get?

Are you sure that KTM 640's as rare as they may be, are so unreliable? I expect they need alot of looking after build quality wise, but I don't remember Iain having too many issues with his?

But as suggested if you don't need a supermoto or a big twin sports bike, then a bike like an old Fazer 600 offers a huge amount of do everything daily hack ability for less than your budget. For a daily commuter personally I'd want something cheap with a bucket load of cheap spares available and unless I was doing mega miles, I'd want as little plastics to damage and have to replace as possible.
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PostPosted: 23:59 - 16 Nov 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

stevo as b4 wrote:
Do you really want two sportsbikes though? Or are you an Albigularis in that it's only sports bikes and big ones at that that have enough ability and capabilities for you?


I didn't realise Bandit 1200's & KTM Duke's were sports bikes.
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PostPosted: 00:01 - 17 Nov 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

lifeisforliving wrote:
What about zx9r or zzr600, you could go supermoto with a husky or similar or drz 400. You could look at adventure bikes for thumpers.


I'd love an SM or similar, hence my ideal bike being a 690 Duke and i'm a bit gutted to be removing a 640 Duke from my options. I'm struggling to find a SM that'd fall within budget, DRZ SM's tend to be going for more than £1500. As for the ZX9 and ZZR, i'm after more of an upright naked bike as the 2nd bike.
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PostPosted: 01:49 - 17 Nov 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

A bandit with a screen on is mightily comfortable on long trips. Plenty of room for pillions too. Handling is soft and relaxed, but they're really stable in slippery conditions. 1200 appears to be regarded as some kind of legendary wheelie machine but they're quite smooth with the delivery rather than giving you nothing followed by a big surge like a sportier bike. This is probably good for controlled wheelies.[/i]
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PostPosted: 06:59 - 17 Nov 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Second bikes say to me something different. How about something that'll do your commute but, with a swift change of tyres, take you down green lanes and through mud?

XT225s now command ridiculous money but you can still find XT600s and a range of DRs around your budget. Simple to work on, cheap to run and a hoot to ride at legal speeds. I love my XT, wish I'd bought one years ago.
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PostPosted: 07:39 - 17 Nov 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

I always fancied an XT660X as an alternative to KTM SM's. They're dipping to near £1500 in price too.
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PostPosted: 07:51 - 17 Nov 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Az wrote:
As for the ZX9 and ZZR, i'm after more of an upright naked bike as the 2nd bike.


Both are alot more upright than the GSXR or blade. ZZR is a shit wheelie machine though, mine never came up easy and tended to land hard.

The 9R could be fightered in the same way you plan to with a 600.
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PostPosted: 10:35 - 17 Nov 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

A down geared hornet 600 isnt shy from some back wheel action
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PostPosted: 11:27 - 17 Nov 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd hunt down an old but loved Africa Twin.
Those look like they'd go on forever and be fun as fuck, no matter what the ride. I'd happily commute on one and take it continental.
Plenty of options for storage too, so for me as a second work horse it would be a no-brainer.

I've seen a few going for about 2k, maybe find one and offer 1.5k?
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PostPosted: 15:05 - 17 Nov 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

talkToTheHat wrote:
A bandit with a screen on is mightily comfortable on long trips. Plenty of room for pillions too. Handling is soft and relaxed, but they're really stable in slippery conditions. 1200 appears to be regarded as some kind of legendary wheelie machine but they're quite smooth with the delivery rather than giving you nothing followed by a big surge like a sportier bike. This is probably good for controlled wheelies.[/i]


Gonads, I had a 600 Bandit and it was a twitchy, nervous, unsettling bike to ride. The engine needed thrashing to get anywhere, soft and relaxed it was not, it became marginally better after an oversized rear was fitted.

I would not and will not recommend a Bandit to anybody.

What about an SV1000?
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PostPosted: 15:09 - 17 Nov 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

secretagentmole wrote:
talkToTheHat wrote:
A bandit with a screen on is mightily comfortable on long trips. Plenty of room for pillions too. Handling is soft and relaxed, but they're really stable in slippery conditions. 1200 appears to be regarded as some kind of legendary wheelie machine but they're quite smooth with the delivery rather than giving you nothing followed by a big surge like a sportier bike. This is probably good for controlled wheelies.[/i]




What about an SV1000?


Not wheelie friendly unless you don't like your front cylinder.
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PostPosted: 15:16 - 17 Nov 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

CBR600F or some kind of fazer.

Would imagine the FireStorm to be a bit of a laff.
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PostPosted: 15:37 - 17 Nov 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you're wanting cheap wheelie fun, get a B1200
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PostPosted: 16:20 - 17 Nov 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

vtrs are fun as fuck, but long a roads are boring and droney as fuck
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PostPosted: 16:31 - 17 Nov 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Big single thumper? something like an XR or XT?
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PostPosted: 16:51 - 17 Nov 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

When I was changing bikes the Husky 610 always looked quite appealing.

Seemed to come up in the £1500 range in SM form.


I ended up with an A1P ZX6R instead though!
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PostPosted: 23:31 - 17 Nov 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fazer 1000 Gen 1.

Upright seating position, half fairing, wheelies, comfy, cheap, reliable, fast enough, grunty engine. Nuff said.
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PostPosted: 15:19 - 19 Nov 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

ive got a mint vtr1000 that you could have for £1500
but its really too nice to be a winter hack,

it certainly isnt economical,

i wintered a ktm640 supermoto, and that was great, crashed super well in the snow, i wouldnt call it a wheelie machine, but you could do one if you wanted too.
my current winter hack is a bandit 600, and its pretty damn good, easy to work on, cheap to get get spares for.
all round fun bike.

dont think id ever sell it, its just too reliable and requires minimal love.
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PostPosted: 23:43 - 19 Nov 2016    Post subject: Supermoto? Reply with quote

CCM 644 ds or an r30 (with suzuki freewind engine)...great fun, and good for miles. Any yam 660 engine based bike or honda xl600 variant. Easy to fix and won't spoil the fun you get from the other bike.
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PostPosted: 22:49 - 27 Nov 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

secretagentmole wrote:
Gonads, I had a 600 Bandit and it was a twitchy, nervous, unsettling bike to ride. The engine needed thrashing to get anywhere, soft and relaxed it was not, it became marginally better after an oversized rear was fitted.


What year? My 2002 (K2) felt ok on the sporty bridgestones that were on it when I got it this time last year, and has felt a bit lethargic on pilot road 4s. It feels a bit unsettled if I forget I cranked the preload up to full for a pillion and luggage, but you can feel there's barely any static sag at the rear if you ride like that. I think the very early mk1 bandits had a narrower rear tyre. If yours did not feel soft and compliant to ride perhaps someone had tweaked the spring rates or damping? I know mine's about stock as I had the fork seals (and thus front damper oil change) done shortly after purchase.

1200 has a different swing arm and wider tyre, so is even slower to turn in and more stable still. It also doesn't need caning like a 600 as there's a much wider spread of torque. I agree the bandit 6 needs a fair amount of revs for anything mildly interestng to happen, but that's about par for the course of 600 I4s.
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PostPosted: 00:49 - 28 Nov 2016    Post subject: Re: Supermoto? Reply with quote

Kentol750 wrote:
or honda xl600 variant.

I don't think the XL range are very easy to wheelie (My 650 certainly isn't) but the NX650 may be OK for that.
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PostPosted: 00:31 - 01 Dec 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

secretagentmole wrote:


Gonads, I had a 600 Bandit and it was a twitchy, nervous, unsettling bike to ride. The engine needed thrashing to get anywhere, soft and relaxed it was not, it became marginally better after an oversized rear was fitted.

I would not and will not recommend a Bandit to anybody.


never noticed this when i first read through.

i must say i have the exact opposite opinion.
almost exactly opposite in fact.

ive even put a narrower tyre than standard on.
i found the bike so soft that i have gsxr shock on the back and adjustable forks on the front.
twitchy it has never been, im not sure what bikes you are comparing the bandit too but its probably the most forgiving bike ive ever ridden.
its no 1200 but it doesnt need thrashing either, up to 7krpm is fine for daily cruising (80mph in top gear)
and you can happily drop down to 2k with out it stuttering. but will also rev past 12krpm easily as well.

maybe im seeing through rose tinted glasses, but my bandit 6 is the best £300 ive ever spent.

its been stolen 3 times, and the when i get it back, at worst it cost me £60 for a new lock set and bars.

my sports bikes dont really even get a look in, i never worry about throwing the bandit down the road.
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