My first crash today, who was at fault?

[Waaarrrggghhh]

I was driving behind this car and it started signalling left and slowing down.

So, naturally, I thought it was going to turn left. The opposite lane was empty, so I overtook it on the right.

However, the driver actually turned right instead of left, straight into me. Luckily it wasn't really a head on crash for me, it was more like we bumped our sides into each other and I managed to stay on, but my left indicator and headlight is wrecked.

I absolutely lost my shit at her, what a crap day for me, failed my mod 1 test this morning, bad day at work then this. I got her number plate at least.

Who was at fault though?

[conker]

Overtaking a car at a junction is risky business, someone emerging from the side road might fail to see you doing so.

I'm no expert, but I'd expect in this case it'll go 50/50 or against you, driver will 'recall' indicating to the right, driving perfectly and even checking their blind spot before committing to the turn and it'll be your word against theirs.

[Pete.]

Chalk it up. Never assume that people are going to turn the way they are indicating, make sure they actually start the maneuver before committing yourself. Also, pulling off that maneuver is a good way of getting flattened by another vehicle emerging from the left turn.
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132.9mph off and walked away. Gear is good, gear is good, gear is very very good

[Rogerborg]

[stinkwheel]

If only you'd been able to do a hazard avoidance swerve.

As has been said, overtaking at a junction is risky. Overtaking well wide would have made it a lot less risky. No good reason not to be well out in the lane you're overtaking in.

But yes, she was in the wrong because indicating left then turning right would, in my book, fulfill the legal test for driving without due care. ie. "Driving that falls below the standard expected of a competent driver.".
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[ackack]

Glad you're ok though that's the main thing. I'm also going to plump for 50/50 because you've put yourself in a dangerous position. She was an absolute arse for doing what she did but you didn't die which is a bonus. I'm guessing you're quite young and it sounds like inexperience to me, the good news is you can learn from this and I bet you won't make the same mistake again.

Never take an indicator for granted and this sort of accident justifies my OCD of spamming the cancel indicator button.

[duhawkz]

wheres the paint diagram?
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[SophR so good]

Equal. No need to overtake a car turning left. A lot of bigger cars swing out right first for tight lefts anyway.
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[Pjay]

It amazes me where we have a system that will fail you due to not being able to show a competent level of safety when riding around some cones and then wave you off on your merry way to ride on the roads for as long as you choose.

"No, you're not fit to ride on the roads, so go and ride on the roads some more".

[NJD]

[M.C]

[Stalk]

Any indication is only proof that the bulb works and no more.

[linuxyeti]

[andyscooter]

will be 50/50 I'm guessing as it went when I had mine

I over took a car turning left and another pulled out from behind it
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[155mph]

[M.C]

[NJD]

[M.C]

[TheArchitect]

Invest in a helmet cam buddy. It's a small price to pay and would have resolved this situation in one phone call.
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[recman]

You were at fault for driving a motorcycle.

[Commuter_Tim]

[Ste]

A helmet cam might be the answer you're looking for that would allow you to resolve the situation with one phone call or it might just raise more questions than it answers.

If the bump was enough to wreck your headlight and indicator then there'll be damage to at least one panel on the car which will cost more than your headlight and indicator will to fix.

The driver shouldn't have turned right after indicating left and without checking their mirrors and blindspot whilst arguably you should have been more careful when overtaking next to a junction. 50:50 at best which means you get half of what it costs to fix your headlight and indicator whilst she'll get half of what it costs to replace and respray the bodywork and half of her personal injury claim.

With the clampdown on whiplash claims approaching, what better time for the driver to make a whiplash claim against a nasty motorcyclist who apparently failed his test earlier that day?

[linuxyeti]

Yes, a helmet cam it helps ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zC_kbiRKTI&t=0s
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[Pjay]

[M.C]