Appreciating modern classics

[B5234FT]

So, what bikes does everyone think will go the way of the RD350 etc?

I'm aware no one knows the answer, but it makes for interesting discussion.

The current cafe racer trend is thinning the stock of certain classic bikes, but will it ever go far enough to drive up prices?

[M.C]

It will be whatever shit bikes people had when they were young. ER5's, Bandits, oh the humanity!

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2 strokes for definite. Not many are still going down in price now.
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[Rogerborg]

Dude, we JUST did this.
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[Monkeywrenche...]

I bought a 2001 rsv mille R, Destroyed it, thus driving up the value of he remaining examples.

The fact i took an absolute gem out of the running has also improved the relative quality of poorer examples....you're welcome guys.

If cars are anything to go by, anything that survives long enough will have classic appeal. the prices will vary hugely but shitty 4 door nova saloons are being counted as classic now
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[M.C]

[Azoth]

1990s jellymould-style sports bikes.
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[ScaredyCat]

Triumph Super III '94, Cosworth version.
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[stevo as b4]

Subject already talked through as said above.

It did get me thinking though, is there a bike manufacturer that has a definitive well defined line of performance models, that will always be sought after and overvalued or have a reputation that goes before them.

Tef won't like it, but I'm comparing to cars here with Ford ad the example.

In today's world split between people wanting cheap city runabouts with uber mpg, lifestyle roof railed crossovers, and the rest all wanting German premium, a firm such as Ford with a long sporting history, and small but totally obsessed fan Base, still does well.

Anything sporting, XR, ST, RS or Cosworth will automatically be guaranteed classic status, and might if availability is limited sell for more used than new, and even 10years of age still be worth a relative fortune for what will often be a lairy, loud, hard and uncomfortable car with no subtlety or class.

Is there a bike manufacturer and model range like CBR etc that is a two wheel equivalent in the used market place?

[Azoth]

[sgtcalle]

I keep seeing people asking 4k for 98 r1s, not even in the good colours!
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[chickenstrip]

[Azoth]

Stubbornness is a big part of it. If you have an old, unremarkable bike, and keep it in perfect nick, and can outpace much better machines on it, it's successfully showing the middle finger to external pressures, which is quite impressive. Also, there's the phenomenon of every individual bonding with one particular bike, because of time and place, more than any other that he subsequently owns, borrows or rides. I was thinking about this recently as I read the experiences of an adventure rider who's been riding a 1970s Kawasaki KZ650 since the early 80s and has put countless miles on it. According to one school of thought, it doesn't matter what you might be riding now, because your bike is your bike.
The bike that left the biggest impression on me was a streetfightered (crashed) 1990s 600cc Bandit. When I'm an old man I hope I won't be shelling out thousands to recapture that 'feeling' though.
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[Nobby the Bastard]

Meh, I'm already riding the bike of the decade voted in the nineties
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[pepperami]

I sold all my old bikes when they were not thought of to be "classics"?,
and all the bikes I own now are a pile of shit.

Looks like I missed the "classic" market

I really cant be arsed to buy a bike (shell out money) to not ride and just have in the shed, just so in twenty years time I can say I own a "classic".

But then I`m a strange fish because I would be quite happy to have an old CZ twin in my garage
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[M.C]

[Azoth]

[chickenstrip]

[Azoth]

My uncle bought me an expensive-looking book at the Birmingham NEC in the 80s, called 'Classic Cars'. I still have it. The illustrations, especially, are premium.. Really fantastic stuff that you don't find any more. I mean, who commissions a painter when writing a book these days?

This thread, as it concerns 'classics' and how and why they're viewed as such, brings a lot home. I understand things now as the individual's odyssey. Nostos vs kleos. Classics, as opposed to the retro aesthetic (the post-bohemian hipster type), pertain to the superiority of nostos. Your perspective on where you stand on such matters therefore depends on where you are in life.
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[M.C]

[stevo as b4]

I must be with peppers in being a weird Fish, as I've had 3 Kawasaki KMX's so far!

I'm reading a magazine article now about a test of a 1985 fwd Ford Escort, with a photo shoot on Southend sea front. This very type of fwd Escort is now selling for £15k in excellent condition, way more than they ever were brand new!

[Pjay]

Cagiva Mito is my tip for the top. I'd imagine in 10 years time they would be very sought after. Especially the 7 speed and the SP525 models.

[chickenstrip]

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