Thought I bought a YBR

[babyblue]

Hello

I recently bought what I was led to believe was a YBR125, unfortunately after being hit by a car recently and needing parts I've found out it isn't a YBR, but a sort of clone.

All documents and communications say YBR, started digging when my friend spotted a JYM decal tucked out of the way, VIN also says JYM, yet all official documents say YBR, which is what I insured it as. Several people have told me my bike isn't a YBR, and it was suggested I come here for advice.

I bought the bike trusting the dealer and largely based on YBR reviews, the situation I find myself in doesn't feel right and I'd appreciate any advice.

[dydey90]

Sounds like you need to talk to trading standards.

Guessing somebody has bought a YBR frame with a V5 and just swapped plates on to a clone to double it's value.
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[wr6133]

The YBR is made by Jianshe for Yamaha.

Or more specifically a subsidary known as Jianshe Yamaha Motor Co. JYM

So you have a YBR.

[Rogerborg]

[babyblue]

[ThatDippyTwat]

I recommended the lass to come here, as my likely suggestion to ram it up the dealers arse is probably not that helpful. You lot may be able to actually help her.

I've seen the VIN plate. It isn't a YBR. It's on there as a JYM125-2, and the plastics and style suggest a JS125-6a with luggage racks.

[wr6133]

[Rogerborg]

If it's got fuel injection then it's as "Yamaha" as you're going to get.

If it's got a carb and fork reflectors, and a square headlight or a bikini fairing, then it might be a grey import Jianshe that's been naughtily badged up as a Yamaha.

Even if it's a grey import, it's unlikely to be that different from a proper YBR. The front brake caliper is bigger on the "Yamaha", and I believe the wheel bearing is different.

Can you show us some pictures of this Jianshe, and point out where it differs from a YBR? Is it actually causing you problems, or is this more of a "Why, I oughta..." point of principle?

Bear in mind that it says Yamaha on the V5C and the badges, so when you sell it, it'll be worth as much as a YBR.

And crazy thought, but wouldn't Yamaha UK be the definitive source for whether it's a grey import or not?
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[ThatDippyTwat]

[Nobby the Bastard]

[babyblue]

Looks like this. I thought I was getting a YBR with a newer headlight until other owners pointed out the engine mismatch, and I got a photo of the VIN.

[img]https://m.facebook.com/?refsrc=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2F&_rdr#!/photo.php?fbid=10157680043055018&id=903460017&set=p.10157680043055018&source=47[/img]

[Nobby the Bastard]

[Rogerborg]

[wr6133]

Picture of offending bike and VIN plate?

I'm struggling to believe the VIN itself has Chinese characters as even Chinese bikes use the standard format on VIN's.

You do realise that if the V5 is stating it's a Yamaha YBR then you are alleging some kind of conspiracy to import a clone and take all the trouble and cost to make it look identical (including converting it to FI).......... Who would bother? There's no money to be made doing it.

More likely your friend has some weird grey import (you could probably tell from the V5) or just a Friday afternoon special where some baijiu addled slave worker bolted on a few parts meant for the domestic "jianshe" bikes.

[Nobby the Bastard]

[Rogerborg]

[babyblue]

[Nobby the Bastard]

[bamt]

Oh yes, that's a Jianshe alright.

Look, here it is:-

https://www.coolbikeshop.com/bikes/JS125-6A.html

[Nobby the Bastard]

[ScaredyCat]

[babyblue]

[ThatDippyTwat]

[J4mes]